Paedophile to be deported to UK ........... What do you think?

[RTKangaMummy]

Paedophile to be deported to UK

A British paedophile who has spent 37 years in an Australian jail is to be deported to the UK, officials said. UK-born Robert Excell, 66, who moved to Australia when he was ten, will be flown home as soon as he has the necessary travel documents, said a spokesman for the Western Australia Justice Department. Excell, who emigrated to Australia as a child but never became a citizen, was serving an indeterminate sentence at the State Governor's pleasure after a string of sex attacks on boys.




What do you think?








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[northerner]

But if you fancy Robbie you don't see him every day. If you fancy young boys/girls they are around you every single day.

Makes me so cross that some people criticise some of the comments on this thread. I personally don't give a f**k about his civil liberties. I wish this country had the guts to lock him and never let him out.

[pixiefish]

Aus govt are protecting their people. Fair enough- but why is he being released at all. if, as sdomeone has suggested the jail want rid of him then can't they incarcerate him here based on the crimes he committed in Oz? don't give him parole just do a jail transfer

[haggered]

Its shouldnt be about human rights as these people have broken all trust and boundries we humans have so therefore forfit any right to live a peaceful life. And saying they may not have committed that crime well DNA these days is specific and conclusive. Bollocks to human rights in these cases

[Caligula]

DNA isn't specific and conclusive. In most cases it is, but if you are unlucky enough to be an almost exact match of a criminal, you could be convicted for a crime you didn't commit. Like fingerprints, it's been sold to the public as infallible, but like fingerprints, it's not.

Circumstantial DNA evidence is also by no means conclusive. Just because someone's DNA is at the scene of a crime, doesn't mean that person did that crime.

But it's not relevant here anyway, as there's no question of this man's guilt, from what I understand.

[haggered]

Sorry off on one abit ! but I agree with media hype but I do not read that rubbish I watch the news and read inbetween the dead donkey type of reporting then form my own opinion. If people are prepared to take the risk of this certain crime then they should take the punishment of the land.

[suzywong]

well this is a divisive thread isn't it?
I still stand by my bludgeoning stance and I would happily wield it too

[RTKangaMummy]

I deffo think that They don't see their actions as wrong

And that is what the problem is


I do not believe that he will be watched when he arrives

[lilibet]

Tinker, feel so for the man in that article.

Does anyone on here think that it is possible to be a 'reformed' paedpohile?Or that if you have done it once and been convicted, you would never do it agaIN?

[RTKangaMummy]

But every time he has been let out he HAS done it again

[haggered]

if your DNA matches + you were in that place or eye witness etc ect then surely you are guilty. Its a jigsaw I know but put the pieces together.

[Tinker]

Shocking isn't it lilibet?

[RTKangaMummy]

But Tinker

IMHO the 2 things are completly different


This man is ABSOLUTLEY the right man and he has done it again and again and again

[haggered]

lilibet - I do think that some crimes and addicts can go to rehab and come out good well rounded people but if you re offened then who suffers with this certain crime !
Tatto gun at the ready !!!!!! i will mark him

[Tinker]

I'm not saying the 2 things are the same. But teh hysteria surrounding this issue leads to teh other - a lot of half knowledge falling into some very ignorant hands.

[Caligula]

I think it very much depends on how many pieces of the jigsaw you've got. Eye witnesses alone may not be enough, DNA alone may not be enough, confession alone may not be enough, but lots all together may be proof "beyond reasonable doubt".

I think it is possible to be a "reformed" paedophile, Lilibet, but this man isn't one. Prison doesn't usually reform paedophiles. That's one of the reasons it's not a particularly good place for them, IMO.

[RTKangaMummy]

ok sorry misunderstood you

[Tinker]

It's ok, was being a bit oblique

[Heathcliffscathy]

Tinker!

i only looked away for a minute...

as i understand it, in most cases, paedophiles have themselves been abused as children. they are unable to relate to adults as sexual objects.

a paedophile for sure needs to be kept out of society for the protection of it's children if he is deemed an ongoing risk.

morningpaper has made clear that in her experience, this man will have no chance of reoffending.

btw, has anyone seen the kevin bacon film 'the woodsman' which, from what i've read, treats this subject as the complex one it is (i haven't seen it, but would like to)?

[haggered]

So lillibet and Tinker - what would you do ? or what do you think should be the law ? i am interested on your thoughts. I am not a witch hunter and will give the benefit of the doubt to most things but this sorry cant....

[Tinker]

Don't know what I'd do haggered but I'd prefer to listen to experts on the subject than reactionary hysteria.

[haggered]

Sophable I agree that paediophiles usually have been abused in the past SO STOP IT NOW ! stop the circle break that chain, shop husbands brothers, uncles ( sorry men are usally the offender) Look after the ickle ones.....boundries boundries people need to know what they.

[suzywong]

Question:
can anyone present a different country's successful solution to dealing with repeat offending predatory paedophiles ? does the hardline approach work? Has any justice system reduced the incidence of re-offense signigicantly enough to protect their children and send a message to any would be offenders?

Seriously, has any country got it right?
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[lilibet]

I am not defending paedophiles in the slightest and feel very secure in saying that neither was Tinker.
I was genuinely interested to know what people think. And I do feel desperatly sorry for the disabled man in Tinker's pice and I think that you would have to be incredibly heard hearted not to.

I honestly don't have an answer, have never been an advocate of capital punishment of any sort, for anything.
I think that there is something mentally wrong with this man and as such should be kept apart from 'society'. He obviously cannot be allowed near any children, but I don't know that 'punishment' ie jail, works, as it obviously hasn't in this case.

[haggered]

Suzy thats a good one .