Baby P

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Hi, to make it easier for people who are finding this subject very distressing, we're going to keep all Baby P posts in one thread. If you'd like to discuss this subject, then here is the thread to do so. We'll go on the other threads and link to this one. Thanks very much.

me too

im going to look at my liitle lad and try and think nice thoughts

nite

No, they were ALL abused as they all must of witnessed the horrors that went on in that house.

That's what keeps going through my mind SHA

He would almost be 3 now and what kind of state would he be in now? It's a shame he wasn't taken away from them to live a happy life with a loving family.

One of the most awful things is how much Peter looked like his mother. I can't understand how she failed to love and protect him.

There's a clear link between cruelty to animals and cruelty to human beings, as it happens. Look back at someone who has displayed cruelty to humans and they often started out with animals.

MollieO - That's exactly why i'm reading cos I have no faith that DD would be protected. I'm just hoping that something comes out of this little boys suffering. Something that will help children in the future...... but in all honesty I don't know what that would be.

He did, didn't he? Would she have already been pregnant when the abuse stepped up? I wonder if it had anything to do with it from the step-dad's point of view. DV escalates at these times I believe

Ok, God that house must have been packed.

I know what you mean about him not suffering anymore, its nice to think that hes in 'heaven' playing with toys and children, warm, happy, loved and then going to bed after a warm bath, dressed in cosy pjs and sleeping in his clean, comfy cot all warm and cuddly. I hope this is how it is for him now.

still here

now ranting at dh who just walked in from work

those social workers who are under investigation that have just been on the news
signed his death warrant

they should be sacked and prosecuted

if they represent the social services in this country i shudder to think how many other children are suffering as we type

I agree with you Lucky that is what makes this so frusrating and upsetting. Its not an isolated case - just the one that made the news

Sorry that was unclear. I was replying to MollieO.

One thing I keep coming back to as I think about this

the little child wouldn't have had any words yet

he couldn't speak

maybe one or two little words
thats all

cant bear to think about it
he was just a baby

I this they should be prosecuted for corporate manslaughter

Surely something must change afer this?

Surely FGS?

you know baby ps mum used to chat on chatrooms/forums.

you don't think was used to come on here do you?

rip beautiful baby p.
i hope your free from all the pain and suffering now.

LuckySalem I have emailed a few MP's about the failings of the case, about leniant sentences and about the fact that I think that SS are overworked and undervalued probably adds to the stress of the very thankless job.

I have also signed a few petitions and am considering becoming a councillor or social worker but don't think I could be a Social worker Im not forgiving enough to put up with parents like these.

I know I am only one small voice and probably wont get anywhere but it's my way of doing something.

griselda - There is alot of talk about holding vigils etc. Facebook is asking everyone to put a pic of Baby P up as their profile picture on an exact day (can't rememeber when) and I couldn't help but read that and think - ok but what about all the other children? When are their vigils? When are people going to realise that there are more children out there probably still suffering?
Same as when little madeline went missing - Lots of other children were missing but they weren't BIG enough to get the press attention.

Maybe as sad as it sounds more press on EVERY case will start making waves when people realise how bad this is?

Smallships, thank you for that. I have been thinking of that poor little angel all day and all I can see is that shocking picture of him in his buggy with chocolate smeared around his little face. But now you have helped to put a nicer picture of him in my mind.

I know there was nothing I could have done, but I feel so helpless and wish I could have. I know that's ridiculous, but I just wish I could have given him just one loving and happy day. Lots of cuddles and love.

Sorry, getting very emotional.

flight

Dp has said i'm not to read about it as getting so upset about it. I think i need to step away from this thread.

im a catholic and this week i have really been very angry with god

i read stuff all the time about terrible stuff all over the world.The congo and the terrible things going on there

but this just got me inside

Mama - I know its not entirely the same but I always wanted to be an RSPCA worker and once I turned 16 (college time) I realised that was a wasted dream as I would probably get VERY angry with people who hurt animals and I can honestly say that any type of children's career has gone down the pan as well now cos I'd lose it.
Was thinking of becoming a childminder but what would I do if a child came in looking abused? I know to damn hell I couldn't make myself give this child back esp now with the failings on this case.

Yes SS are overworked and underpaid but they should still do their jobs.

Flightattendant - a 17 month old can understand everything though

They folow orders and know what to expect next - that is what makes it so cruel
My 20 month old follows orders, such as "get your spoon", "sit down for your breakfast" etc

I cannot understand how a man who did this can get a maximum 14 years? He should never be at large, ever

I thought of that the other day maggot but I think she was more into Bebo and Facebook said that she was always looking for dates so much for loving the b*d so much she let him abuse her son.

CP - Sorry to make this about god but this is one of the many reasons I don't think he exists. If you believe the bible then how bloody bad must this world have been for the flood when he made them biuld the ark? Surely we're somewhere there by now?