Re this recent child abuse case, can we have just *ONE* thread for competitive sadding please?

[solidgoldbrass]

Yes it's awful
Etc.
But we don't need a McCann-esque thread frenzy all saying the same thing.

I can't say I've noticed too many threads about Baby P compared to a time (not so long ago) when Mumsnet's active convos were dominated by people wailing and gnashing their teeth about Cod.

Competitive saddos they were one and all IMO.

i do realise that, dittany. i suppose i just don't think that the 'woe is me' reaction is respectful of the actual tragic events, which i do find a bit baffling given that they think they are paying their respects in some way.

No, not seeing actually, please explain. What about SM's perfectly valid question is supposed to demonstrate the correctness of your argument?

ROFL ninkynork. i wasn't involved in those, thankfully. however you do see, don't you, that people knew cod and that her life was threatened etc actually on MN? so that's a bit different.

because her point is so irretrievably stupid and callous and showed a wilful disregard for what is actually being said in order to pursue a sarcastic joke, georgiemama.

Personally, I have no problem with people being sad and saying so. I think people doing something constructive like donating to charity, praying if that's their thing, lobbying for more funding for social workers or more support for families in crisis, even better.

But I hate the appropriating of a child's death as some sort of juicy story to be discussed at length, complete with every detail of what happened to him, and people posting more and more links saying 'look here, pictures of him', or 'look here, it breaks my heart what they did to him'.

It strikes me as salacious, inappropriate, and deeply distressing. even if people have no feelings at all except hatred for the boy's mother (and I can't help feeling that she must be in need of some serious help herself), he had a father and other relatives who would probably be distraught to hear him being discussed at length in this way by complete strangers.

AMEN,freshhell.

I'd say that I'm usually fairly stoic but having children did affect how I felt about things generally and especially when something preventable like this has happened to a child around the age of one that you spend your energies minding.

I don't think that it is fair for us to judge the sincerity of other posters in cases like this.
Some reactions seem like an over reaction to me but then again that I was genuinely upset by this seems like an overreaction to me had you asked me a few years ago.

It's still all over the news. People are affected by this perhaps simply because it highlights what they have or have not.

Can't we allow to live and let live and keep our censure for a few weeks time?

I can't see that actually, SM brought up similar events which are discussed and remembered, which concern real people who may or may not be connected to those "ullalating" in public. What's the difference? There isn't one.

People who are "indulging" in a "vulgar" degree of "grief" over this might actually have personal reasons for doing so. It might remind them of something painful. Or they might be complete misery-addict nobs. You don't know and neither does SGB. That's the point. If you don't like it, tackle on the relevant thread or leave alone.

my rebuke was to posters who find discussing infanticide vulgar.not a musing about baby p

the op was only asking that you keep it to one thread

you would really prefer that, georgie? wouldn't there be an outcry of 'stop picking on us you rotters'?

I think this thread has provoked exactly that reaction, so I can't see what difference it would make.

At least it would demonstrate the courage to tell people, to their faces as it were, exactly what you think of them and their alleged posturing, rather than hiding it in another thread that they may or may not see.

well that's happened in the past and it got a lot uglier than this, believe me. i doubt you'd like it.

I never bothered with the McCann/Diana/Twin Towers et al dirge that was going around at their time.

However, this case has affected me deeply in that I cannot shake off the thought of what that child went through in his short life. I am not sure if it is because I have had a flashback to my own crappy childhood that has ignited this or because I am a mother of boys. I just don't know. What I can say is that this forum allows me to express myself without anyone actually knowing who I really am. I can emotionally cleanse myself and free up bad feeling that overwhelms me at this moment in time. And it makes it so much better knowing some people feel the same way.

Do I feel bad that you are forced to read my rants and opinions? No in short because nobody is forcing you to click this link.

Well it probably gets uglier because more people would be aware of the contempt with which they are viewed.

But why would you fear that? If you're so right?

oh, god, georgiemama, you're being a chore. i couldn't give a flying fuck, i don't want to bump those threads, i didn't start this op, i'm not wanting to start a fight but havea discussion,... whatebver. choose whichever of rthose most rattles your rosaries and decide that you are good and i am bad. most christian, i'm sure, seeing as i've already told you i'vr no problem with prayer threads AT ALL.

I have just read the extent of the horror that little boy suffered and I am furious at the term 'competitive saddening'.
This forum is called 'Mums Net' for mums to discuss their feelings on various issues. What gives certain posters the right to discate to others 'how many threads are posted on an issue'. Just don't open them.

Solidgoldbrass you are an idiot

sgb is not an idiot ffs

she wrote an idiotic thread

' I have just read the extent of the horror...'

WHY? Seriously, why? I actively avoid hearing aobut this case because
a)it is disturbing and
b)it is unnecessary for me to know the details.

I am genuinely bemused as to why anyone other than those directly involved have any need or indeed right to know what went on.
I find it horrible tbh.

I find the fascination horrible.

I don't want to know details.I want to know about the system.

you don't agree with her thread and she doesn't agree with you but to be honest she really is far from an idiot
imho