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Evil mother who killed son, 5, to spite her ex left note saying: 'I told you I would make you pay'

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yerblurt · 01/08/2008 11:54

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1040170/Evil-mother-killed-son-5-spite-ex-left-note-s aying-I-told-I-make-pay.html

Evil mother who killed son, 5, to spite her ex left note saying: 'I told you I would make you pay'

An evil mother driven by rage and jealousy killed her five-year-old son to spite his father, a horrified coroner heard yesterday.

Emma Hart, 27, force-fed Lewis Dangerfield a lethal cocktail of painkillers and antidepressants at their home, then fled to her mother's flat nearby and ended her own life by slashing her wrists.

In a note to Lewis's father, Shaun Dangerfield, which she left by the boy's body, she wrote: 'I told you I would make you pay, enjoy your life now, nothing is stopping you, ha ha ha. Just remember it's all your fault.'
Lewis Dangerfield
Emma Hart

Spite: Lewis Dangerrfield was given a fatal dose of sleeping pills before his mother Emma Hart slashed her wrists

Coroner Robin Balmain described the case as the most distressing he had ever dealt with in 25 years of inquests. 'I can't imagine something quite so evil as a mother who is prepared to do that.

'Her actions were simply spite - she was prepared to kill her son to spite Mr Dangerfield. I find it difficult to believe how anybody could do that.'

He added that he had heard no evidence to justify any criticism of Mr Dangerfield - not even from Hart's family.

'He has done everything he possibly could to fulfil his obligations to his little boy.

'She couldn't get her way and maybe she was driven by jealousy. She was prepared not only to kill herself but to do something that quite frankly, beggars belief.'

During the inquest at Smethwick, West Midlands, 27-year- old Mr Dangerfield broke down in tears as a policewoman read Hart's last note to him and had to leave the hearing to compose himself.

Giving evidence, he said Hart was troubled and hate-filled during their four-year on-off relationship, was often violent towards him and had repeatedly threatened to commit suicide.

After they separated, she was unhappy about his new partner, who also had a child, and resented Lewis spending time with them.

Hart had also lied to friends about having cancer in an attempt to gain sympathy and force Mr Dangerfield to go back to her, the inquest heard.

He had received a text from her days before the deaths which read: 'I know what to do now for the best x'. He had thought at the time it was an 'amicable' response to a disagreement they had over Lewis's custody arrangements.
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But then on a weekend in December last year when he was due to look after Lewis, Hart changed the arrangements saying she was taking him to see Santa Claus.

On the Saturday afternoon, she took a taxi to her mother's home in Tipton and told her family that Lewis was out with his father.

But at 7pm her mother Lynn found her body in her bed, covered in blood with cut wrists.

In a note left by the bed she said she was sorry for taking her own life and confessed to killing Lewis.

It read: 'I'm so sorry for taking Lewis and me away, I just can't take it any more, I'm just not strong enough.'

Police went to Hart's house, where they found Lewis's body on a double bed covered with a duvet. Empty packets of prescription drugs were at the bedside.

Toxicologist Dr Timothy Sheehan said Lewis had consumed nearly ten times the recommended dose of the painkiller Tranadol and antidepressants.

The disturbing note, which his mother had addressed to Mr Dangerfield, also read: 'Did you really think I was going to die and allow you to bring Lewis up and play happy families with you?

'You made your choice, now you can live with it, you can hurt for the rest of your life just like the hell you have put me through the last two years.'

In another note to her family, found next to Lewis, Hart said: 'If you are asking why, look no further than Shaun - a pathetic excuse for a dad. I can't handle it any more - I have been the only one there for Lewis, so it's only right he is with me.

'Don't give Shaun anything - I love you all very much. I had to do it, I couldn't take no more, none of you could have stopped this. Don't none of you blame yourselves.'

Mr Balmain recorded a verdict of suicide for Hart as a result of slitting her wrists but said she had also taken lethal overdoses of morphine, painkillers and antidepressants.

A verdict of unlawful killing was recorded for Lewis.

He said: 'Emma Hart left a note which was severely critical of Mr Dangerfield. I have heard no evidence to justify that view.

The coroner added that Hart was driven by 'rage and hatred if she did not get her own way' and was prepared to lie about her medical condition to Mr Dangerfield - as well as friends and her own family - 'to get control' over him.

Relatives of Hart, including her mother, father, two brothers and two sisters, were all present at the inquest and frequently broke into tears.

Her mother told the inquest: 'She is not a horrible person, she was a loving mum.'

After the hearing, Mr Dangerfield said in a statement: 'Losing the biggest part of your life is haunting to say the least.
'Being told today the exact reasons as to how he was murdered won't bring him back but does bring it to an end.'

... so it's only men who kill their children out of spite is it? No sign of mental illness here, just pure spite and selfishness.

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DoubleBluff · 01/08/2008 13:45

Myra Hindley?

ConstanceWearing · 01/08/2008 13:47

I'm not suggesting anything at all. Just wondering out loud about it all. you don't have to agree wth me upwind, I'm open to arguments, as you can see.

ConstanceWearing · 01/08/2008 13:49

Oops. Point taken MD.

I really was just projecting myself into the position of that woman. Perhaps a streak of narcissism myself, there?

Upwind · 01/08/2008 13:49

Likewise, Constance, I did not mean to be so terse, typing while eating my lunch!

solidgoldbrass · 01/08/2008 13:49

Usually, when a partner who has been sexually rejected kills either the children or the departing partner, the relationship has ended because the killer has been repeatedly abusive and impossible to live with.
And while it is more ethical to end one relationship before starting another, it's not uncommon for people with abusive (mentally or physically, of either gender) partners to be so ground down by the abuse that they don't think to get away until they meet someone who actually treats them with some consideration and kindness.
No I don;t have any pity for people who kill their own children because of sexual jealousy. Their minds are not functioning within a normal spectrum, but the same is true of serial killers and I don;t see much need to pity them either.

ConstanceWearing · 01/08/2008 13:50

Point taken DB

KerryMum · 01/08/2008 13:51

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MsDemeanor · 01/08/2008 13:52

I feel this is a rare example of a woman being as vindictively violent as a man. Of course, men tend to get a lot more sympathy and excuses and the women are always blamed when a man kills her kids. But that injustice doesn't make it OK for this woman to do this. She may have had a personality disorder of some kind, I guess, but does that make someone 'mad' or unable to control their actions? Or is in a way, this kind of spite rather rational. If a person really really hates someone and wants to hurt them forever, this is really the only way to do it, because it is the worst thing you could do to someone. Worse than killing them.
I could only imagine doing something like this if so pyschotic I literally didn't know what I was doing and, say, thought my children were satanic or that they weren't my children at all. But her own notes make it clear this was not the case. She states her reasons very clearly - why assume she was lying?

Upwind · 01/08/2008 13:54

reading back down the thread

I don't think that arguing that people who kill their own children may be of sound mind is the same as arguing that mothers who commit infanticide are of sound mind, ButterflyMcQueen. That is a different situation with hormones flying and PND is not exactly unusual.

Lewis was seven years old.

edam · 01/08/2008 13:55

Certainly people can be evil without being mentally ill. It's doing a huge disservice to anyone with mental health problems to suggest they are on a level with evildoers, or that wicked people are never responsible for their own actions.

It is overwhelmingly men who kill children out of anger and spite directed at their partners or ex-partners, though - unusual for the perpetrator to be a woman.

It would be interesting to compare and contrast the DMail coverage of this case with the man who threw his children off a balcony, though. Wonder if they were quite as vehement about him? Everyone tends to be harder on women who transgress social norms.

MsDemeanor · 01/08/2008 13:56

Yes, I agree with you Edam that men who kill their kids in exactly the same way have endless excuses made for them and the woman are ALWAYS blamed. The attitude from the whole of society is very different, even for near-identical crimes.

Upwind · 01/08/2008 13:58

Edam - IIRC in that case the father had a family and personal history of mental illness. It also seemed like an unpremeditated act, giving room for reasonable doubt as to his sanity at the time he killed his son.

Sadly, you probably won't have to look far to find cases where men do seem to have murdered their children in an act of premeditated spite. I think there was even a couple this year

edam · 01/08/2008 14:01

I don't recall any clear evidence of mental illness at his trial -only the say so of doctors who had met him after the event, when it was clearly in his interests to play up the mental health angle. And when he may well have been traumatised anyway, even if he wasn't disturbed in the first place.

Anyway, whatever went on beforehand, if he had genuinely been remorseful, he wouldn't have tried quite so hard to get off IMO.

BitOfFun · 01/08/2008 14:08

(off topic, sorry} Wow Upwind, thanks! I normally kill a thread stone dead . Normal service resumed...

mamadiva · 01/08/2008 14:09

Upwind Lewis was 5 it's in the OP

There were 2 little boys aged 2 and 7(?) killed by their dad in Glasgow this year he stabbed them both to death and then killed himself at a beauty spot in his car.

There are just far too many now a days it's horrible.

ConstanceWearing · 01/08/2008 14:09

What we call 'evil' generally means psychotic, and unable to rehabilitate, I think.

She might well have been psychotic. She might also have been very depressed. I don't excuse it at all. I just know these feelings of powerlessness and rage. I understand the desire for such a vengeance, not the act itself.

mamadiva · 01/08/2008 14:13

Constance IMHO Evil defines an act which cannot be comprehended by people of the norm so yes I spose it is psycotic technically but she seemed sane when she wrote that EVIL letter and it wasn't done because she felt sorry for herself blah de blah she did it out of pure spite and we can gather this by the fact she wrote basically 2 different letters. A nasty, vindictive letter to ex, and a nice loving motherly type letter to family. The woman deserved to die but in a much more horrid way! Sorry if that's harsh.

edam · 01/08/2008 14:18

I think there are people who are perfectly sane and capable of doing evil things. And it diminishes the horror of their acts if we just sweep it aside with an 'oh, they weren't in their right minds'. There are people who are fully responsible for their actions who choose to do horrible, horrible things.

Was Slobodan Milosovic (sp?) insane when he was ordering the torture and murder of Bosnian Muslims? Was Saddam Hussein insane? Is every single invidividual responsible for the rape and murder of men, women and children in Darfur insane?

All of them show a very high degree of planning and organisation. And they can't all have been mad when they did it.

dittany · 01/08/2008 14:21

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tiggerlovestobounce · 01/08/2008 14:22

Psychosis is when someone is either suffering from hallucinations, delusional thoughts or both. It does not mean anything to do with being evil.

ConstanceWearing · 01/08/2008 14:22

Agree, I'm not making excuse for anybody, MD. I'm just saying that I understand to a point. Then my understanding cuts off, and after that I don't get it.

I'm just wondering if anybody really understands the psychology behind it. And if they don't, somebody really ought to be investigating this as a social phenomenon because, as plent of people have said, this has happened to often lately.

And i do think there are more factors than just mentally ill or not, evil or not. There is society's two-faced attitude to this sort of thing.

People say 'oh well if you're not happy, leave him or her'. then if somebody does leave their friend it's all 'the bastard / bitch, I hope his balls/ her tits fall off'.

Do you see what I mean? Mixed messages. I'm just looking at it from a sociological pov really.

DoubleBluff · 01/08/2008 14:24

I don't think anyone has symapthy for that guy who threw his son off the balcony. He is evil too.
There is a difference between mental illness adn a personality disorder.
A mental illnes can be treated.
Personality disorder you cannot cure that is how you are.
I would suggest that this woman had apersonality disorder.
Othe than that she is just a complete fuck-up.

ConstanceWearing · 01/08/2008 14:24

Oh, and stop picking on me you bad buggers. I'm not trying to make you agree with me, I'm trying to have a discussion and to understand a bit. Don't be so harsh

dittany · 01/08/2008 14:25

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mamadiva · 01/08/2008 14:28

Well Constance if you don't agree with us we will bully you until you do LOL

I for one haven't actually seen anyone being by the sides of these men who kill their kids did I miss that oart? The guy in Greece is evil and he should be kept behind bars for the rest of his life. Poor little Mia still has nightmares and asks why her daddy did that to her it's a bloody shame for her.