what do you think? was the resturant right?

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or is it discrimination

I now await being asked to not take dd to places incase she puts people off their food.

god some of these posts are beyond belief. as for some poor dear moaning because a sn kid upset her dc's film viewing
do you not realise we are all (including your dc's) only a car crash away from sn.

most people don't really come across real people living with disabilities and never have their ideas of inclusiveness and non discrimination tested in any significant way

this thread is making me very sad and upset
time to leave

THis woman has a progressivly debilitaing genetic condition that is ultimatly leathal.
She and her family have a limited amount of time togther while she is still 'herself'

It is beholden on we lucky, healthy people to accept that life is much harder for other people, and to accept the differences that come with disability.

To be brutal, if he had waited a few months she will probably be too ill to come to the bloody resturant..

"Only time will tell if he's cooked his goose or not".

Time, and the fact that he has been portrayed as a spineless, money-grabbing bigot in the national media.

And rightly so - he has dealt with this whole scenario soooo badly.

I would much rather eat in a restaurant that was tolerant and accepting of every customer, than in one in which the owner had somehow cleared of those he found unacceptable.

It's rather too sinister for my palate.

i waqs tghinking that mb

When I lived in Japan (many years before ds1) there was one bar I visited regularly because it employed a man with SLDs. And he was completely socially inappropriate. So it was a lovely relaxed place to eat.

If I heard now there was a restaurant locally that would tolerate those with disabilities I would go along with my whole family. ANd I would tell my friends.

The man's missed a business opportunity there- People with disabilities are so isolated that once word gets around people will be there like a shot.

CAN I JUST SAY THIS PLEASE:

It does not bother me if

her trousers fall down
she makes a mess
she is fed through a tube
she has a screaming thingy on the floor
she is black/red/blue
she waves her arms about/screams whilst eating.
she spits into a napkin
she spills coffee everwhere

I have a problem with spitting on the floor in a restaurant, I'm sorry, I just do.

A more informative article re the situation Catherine Blow

Foxymolly

HD is a genetic condition that causes sever motor problems and also causes a progressive dementia. In the early stages there are motor problems and also issues with emotional control.

This woman isn't volentarily spitting, this behaviour is not in her conscious control

she isnt spitting in the sense that it would be ofensive she has difficulty with motor co ordiantion and swallowing

Foxy she's not spitting in the same sense that you see yobs in the street spitting.

foxymolly you are priceless.
I think you have just proved why inclusion doesn't work.

Foxymolly, read the link I put up, it explains in simple terms how HD affects people.

Well I apologise for my ignorance. I thought her illness meant she had to clear her throat or something and was choosing to do it on the floor rather than be discreet about it.

I didn't realise. I'm sorry.

and it is probably wise to know a little bit about the condition before sounding off about the situation.

xpost, but I stand by what I said

She's NOT 'spitting onto the floor'. read this She will not be hawking up a big green one and aiming for the doormat at the main entrance! 'spitting onto the floor' is so very misleading.

True MB

I just read the article at the top

Poor Hecate has been banging her head on the wall and shouting "she's not spitting" for about 15 minutes!

(You can stop now, Hecate! )

Right now, she realises what she is doing. And has no control over it. Imagine just how that would feel. And to be perfectly capable of knowing what awaits you in hte future.

And then to have someone tell you they don't want you around anymore because of it.

Does it make a difference to your attitude foxymolly? I appreciate feelings of disgust are quite involuntary, but knowing the situation (and that her actions are completely involuntary) do you think you would be able to moderate them in order to share a restaurant with someone with an obvious disability that leads to this kind of behaviour?

Other posters stupidity and down right rudeness is out of order,

I am begining to be swayed towards thinking perhaps he could have done more to accomodate her. Thats what I am trying to say, I don't want to jump to conclusions on the back of an newspaper article. Its difficult to know what has gone for the past 2 years, to know what kind of relationship or lack of relationship was built up.

There is a local cafe here and also a local restaurant and both of them employ adults with SN. They are always full and really busy and very popular with regulars and tourists alike.

There is also a big co-operative wholefood shop and all the staff have some sort of SN. Again it is very popular and due to these places I don't even look twice or notice someone has SN any more. The local cinema runs a kid's club on a saturday and regularly there are large parties of children with SN in the audience. I think if anyone tutteds they would certainly be in the minority.

I think when the whole country becomes more tolerant of SN we will also become more normalised to it and then it will cease to be an 'issue' or 'problem' to more people, as it will just be normal.

Thanks Bette.

Does anyone have aspirin?

i really hope that Galo D'Ouro in Queenstown Road Battersea is over run with protestors.

he cannot discriminate it's against the law, banning her on health and safety i imagine wouldn't stand up either.