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Andy Burnham says wealthy areas must house more migrants after leafy village revolts over 1,250 asylum seekers

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MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 09:42

Andy Burnham just doesn't get it does he, we don't want anymore migrants/illegals put anywhere not in rich or poor areas we want to stop them coming here full stop.

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Mugsey62 · Yesterday 15:50

Sorry, I just mean in the context of people using the word 'love' as an address. It would only be a reference to your gender wouldn't it? No one would call you love if you were a small man would they?

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 15:51

Dollymylove · Yesterday 14:35

How many Australians are coming here illegally and being put up in hotels/HMOs courtesy of the taxpayer? How many Australians are hanging around the streets intimidating females and shitting and pissing wherever takes their fancy? And before anyone starts, this is happening in my town and many towns nearby

What town is that? Do you have any links to news reports?

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 15:54

Azerothians · Yesterday 14:36

If you have no idea what I am talking about why reply?

You have no evidence that I suggested they have a higher rate of STDs than the general population, assuming you mean their country of origin? Because quoting this country's (UK) general population would be meaningless, not least because we have very high rates of gonorrhoea and chlamydia.

I was hoping you might clarify. So you are saying that asylum seekers don't have higher rates of STDs than the general (British) population?

So why draw attention to their need for treatment of STDs?

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 15:55

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 14:42

I speak for myself thank you and calling people racist might have shut down debate a few years ago but not now people have had enough of mass (especially illegal)immigration. After the Mega Dinghy arriving carrying 230 undocumented fighting age men I'd like to ask when is enough enough or are there never enough like Rachel M(not sure of her name) said until they were planning to house a 1500 or so near her then she soon changed her tune.

What's the relevance of them being fighting age men?

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 15:56

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 15:55

What's the relevance of them being fighting age men?

Well dur they’re going to form an army and take over our country, haven’t you read your reform times this month? 😂😂🤣

Catterbat · Yesterday 15:56

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 14:32

The Ukranians were proper refugees fleeing war, the so called irregulars/illegals call them what you want who cross the Channel and have paid people smugglers lots of money to get here are not. Surely and I'm not including you in this I'm just highlighting your quote, people must be thick or just plain.stupid to think otherwise.

Proper refugees fleeing war, as opposed to pretend refugees fleeing enforced conscription, religious persecution and torture?

MarmaladeorJam · Yesterday 15:59

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 15:46

White people evolved from brown people not the other way around.

You are making an awful lot of assumptions based on where people come from.

Have you ever met any asylum seekers?

@Mugsey62 - we are talking about evolution now? I know very little about it.

I spent many years in quite a few Middle Eastern countries.

My "assumptions" are based on that.

And yes, over there, I did indeed meet many (what would become) asylum seekers before they set off.

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:04

Asunciondelaflata · Yesterday 14:42

It genuinely sounds like a solution, though, because living with ordinary people will help with language and integration skills.
It was a policy with Ukrainians, wasn't it?

Interesting that you brought up Ukrainians...unlike brown asylum seekers Ukrainians were given three year visas with full access to work, healthcare, schools and benefits. Local authorities were given £10 000 per refugee to help them integrate. Hosts were given £350 per month to house Ukrainian asylum seekers.

None of this applies to any other group.

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:04

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 15:55

What's the relevance of them being fighting age men?

To highlight they are not old men, women or children, who do you think they are doctors and engineers? Why are 'fighting' age men leaving their countries of origin. In WW1 and WW2 men didn't desert their women and children they fought to save them.

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MarmaladeorJam · Yesterday 16:06

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:04

Interesting that you brought up Ukrainians...unlike brown asylum seekers Ukrainians were given three year visas with full access to work, healthcare, schools and benefits. Local authorities were given £10 000 per refugee to help them integrate. Hosts were given £350 per month to house Ukrainian asylum seekers.

None of this applies to any other group.

Right, but a war had literally just broken out.

It applied to women and children only.

Not the men.

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:08

In Ceuta, I spoke with fighting-age Moroccan men who told me they were trying to come to Britain.

Is it any surprise when they know if they break into Britain they’ll be rewarded with free food and housing?

When they later apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain, they do not even face the modest barriers that legal immigrants do.

They pay no application fee.

They do not have to prove they can speak English.

They do not have to demonstrate any knowledge of British culture.

They even can apply while claiming unemployment benefits.

More than 180,000 asylum recipients are already on Universal Credit.

Let me repeat that.

Someone can break into Britain on a small boat. They can be housed in a free hotel. Once their asylum claim is approved, they can go straight onto benefits.

They can then apply for ILR without doing ANYTHING to prove that they belong here at all - and access every benefit available to citizens as a result.

All at the expense of hard working Brits.

No wonder illegal migrants cross the whole of Europe to come here.

The solution is simple: cut off ALL the benefits and begin mass deportations.

That is what a Reform government will do.

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Terrribletwos · Yesterday 16:11

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:04

To highlight they are not old men, women or children, who do you think they are doctors and engineers? Why are 'fighting' age men leaving their countries of origin. In WW1 and WW2 men didn't desert their women and children they fought to save them.

It is said so many times about fighting aged men or young men. What does this mean?? Do you mean an army that will take us over?

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:12

Mugsey62

Why bring the colour of peoples skin into the conversation talking about brown people sounds a tad racist to me.

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Terrribletwos · Yesterday 16:15

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:08

In Ceuta, I spoke with fighting-age Moroccan men who told me they were trying to come to Britain.

Is it any surprise when they know if they break into Britain they’ll be rewarded with free food and housing?

When they later apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain, they do not even face the modest barriers that legal immigrants do.

They pay no application fee.

They do not have to prove they can speak English.

They do not have to demonstrate any knowledge of British culture.

They even can apply while claiming unemployment benefits.

More than 180,000 asylum recipients are already on Universal Credit.

Let me repeat that.

Someone can break into Britain on a small boat. They can be housed in a free hotel. Once their asylum claim is approved, they can go straight onto benefits.

They can then apply for ILR without doing ANYTHING to prove that they belong here at all - and access every benefit available to citizens as a result.

All at the expense of hard working Brits.

No wonder illegal migrants cross the whole of Europe to come here.

The solution is simple: cut off ALL the benefits and begin mass deportations.

That is what a Reform government will do.

Shared from Facebook ( YiaYusuf Reform Party)

And how do we stop it?

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:16

MarmaladeorJam · Yesterday 14:46

@Mugsey62

Surely the ingredients are -

A dense quantity of young men, living together with nothing to do.

Most will have some trauma from the journey, most will be lonely, most will miss home.

Most spend days that turn into years - waiting. No purpose, simply waiting.

Most come from extremely conservative societies compared to ours, and will do what humans do, make assessments and judgements.

That they happen to be Muslim, because they came from Muslim countries is secondary.

If they were to be bus loads of Russian men (white as you can get) I am sure the reaction would be the same - to many, too condensed, too dangerous for the locals (mainly women).

How many more women have been attacked by asylum seekers than have been attacked by white men would you say?

I'll save you the trouble, The Guardian reports an Oxford study which says that there is no evidence that brown asylum seekers are more likely to commit sexual violence:

With that context in mind, the figures we do have show that, overall, foreign nationals in England and Wales are imprisoned or convicted at roughly the same rate as British nationals, according to analysis by the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/14/truth-about-crimes-committed-by-foreign-nationals-uk

How do conviction rates and prison populations differ between British and foreign nationals? - Migration Observatory

This commentary outlines what available data can tell us on how convictions and prison populations compare for migrants and the UK population.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/migrant-convictions-and-prison-population/

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:17

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 15:56

Well dur they’re going to form an army and take over our country, haven’t you read your reform times this month? 😂😂🤣

😀

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:20

MarmaladeorJam · Yesterday 16:06

Right, but a war had literally just broken out.

It applied to women and children only.

Not the men.

Err..so there haven’t been any wars in Afghanistan, Syria, Eritea.....

AI disagrees with your comment about the homes for refugees scheme being for women and children only:

Male Ukrainian asylum seekers or refugees—like any eligible Ukrainian national displaced by the conflict—can use the UK's Homes for Ukraine sponsorship route, provided they meet core criteria such as having resided in Ukraine prior to January 1, 2022, and securing an approved UK sponsor. 1, 2]

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:21

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:16

How many more women have been attacked by asylum seekers than have been attacked by white men would you say?

I'll save you the trouble, The Guardian reports an Oxford study which says that there is no evidence that brown asylum seekers are more likely to commit sexual violence:

With that context in mind, the figures we do have show that, overall, foreign nationals in England and Wales are imprisoned or convicted at roughly the same rate as British nationals, according to analysis by the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/14/truth-about-crimes-committed-by-foreign-nationals-uk

How can you check who’s entering and if you can’t are you happy to take a risk, if you have DDs even.

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:22

Terrribletwos · Yesterday 16:11

It is said so many times about fighting aged men or young men. What does this mean?? Do you mean an army that will take us over?

Fighting age men equals fit young men who yes who knows could be an army mobilizing and we are bringing them in voluntarily and housing and feeding them, sleepers who knows. That's the point most are undocumented they could be terrorists, murderers, rapists or not we don"t know who they are and Burnham our unelected PM with no mandate from the people wants to spread them around next to families, schools etc.

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Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 16:22

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:04

To highlight they are not old men, women or children, who do you think they are doctors and engineers? Why are 'fighting' age men leaving their countries of origin. In WW1 and WW2 men didn't desert their women and children they fought to save them.

If you think British men didn’t flee the draft in ww1&2 you are very wrong

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:25

Terrribletwos · Yesterday 16:15

And how do we stop it?

Vote Reform Party Nigel Farage they are our only hope in my opinion. 14 years of Tory rule and now 2 years of Labour have ruined our country.
Google-Reform Party Policies

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Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:27

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:21

How can you check who’s entering and if you can’t are you happy to take a risk, if you have DDs even.

I have quoted Oxford University research. What do you think they have wrong? Or are you happy just to muddle along with your paranoia? I do have a DD as it happens. She would agree with everything I have said.

Not everyone reads the Daily Mail/Daily Telegraph and gets their minds filled with hysteria you know.

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 16:28

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:22

Fighting age men equals fit young men who yes who knows could be an army mobilizing and we are bringing them in voluntarily and housing and feeding them, sleepers who knows. That's the point most are undocumented they could be terrorists, murderers, rapists or not we don"t know who they are and Burnham our unelected PM with no mandate from the people wants to spread them around next to families, schools etc.

Utter paranoia.

Terrribletwos · Yesterday 16:33

People keep saying "fighting age men". What does this mean?

parall · Yesterday 16:33

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 16:25

Vote Reform Party Nigel Farage they are our only hope in my opinion. 14 years of Tory rule and now 2 years of Labour have ruined our country.
Google-Reform Party Policies

Well the leafy suburbs/villages/towns of the Lib Dem and Green variety may well look elsewhere if their enclaves are re settled with migrants. The migrants that they want everyone else to take in and nurture apart from themselves that is.

However, if the polls show Reform gaining huge ground over this, I would bet my bottom dollar that Labour and Tory will seek to do something also to stave off the Reform surge.

The current proposals sound like dog whistles to me. To test the waters.

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