Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

I think the problem was it was the murderers family who called the Police with a pack of lies about being tacially attacked. The Police thought they already had the story so it took them (3 minutes) to realise that Henry had been stabbed. It might have been a different outcome if a member of the public had made the call - the Police would've looked at the scene in a different way. The Police were too slow and unprofessional to asesess the scene correctly. They should be punished and there should be an enquiry but to say that this is anti-white racism is completely off the mark. The Police were white too.

What’s particularly concerning IMO is the family’s reaction. If it had been “just one nutcase” who had defiled his own religion, they should have been disgusted by his behaviour and helped the police. Instead they did that thing that religions of all sorts do, and prioritised protecting the religion’s reputation by covering up a crime. For that reason alone, the exemption needs to be removed. Because they’ve shown that their religion is no different to any other in that respect, and no other religion gets a deadly weapon exemption, so nor should theirs.

You are wrong. It was a second knife but a religious second knife. Read the sentencing remarks.

I won't watch the video, he at least deserves some dignity in death?

Let a jury.

Are you for real? You have literally just posted a link which completely proved the complete silencing of crimes on white people. Have you read this??? No mention of a religious knife, no mention of Henry being accused of racism, no mention of the terrible treatment from the police!
If you linked this thinking it would 'prove' the BBC reported on it then yu look very silly.
Meanwhile media channels not influenced by the government reported all of this meaning people who seen it elsewhere had the true facts instead of what they were fed by the BBC to downplay crimes they choose.

Apart from a press release about sorrow and regret. has their been a statement from the Sikh Organisation in UK?
It would be nice to think that they themselves would offer to forego the right of carrying a large or second knife.

She just posted a link to the reporting from the BBC in December 2025.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y2lklgpl9o

I'm not denying that this was managed in a disgustingly poor way but I think there does need to be an understanding that a great deal of policing and medicine is pattern recognition especially when time is critical and resources are limited. The question is with where you draw the line between pattern recognition and stereotyping. Let's be honest without knowing how this tragic tale ended if someone came up to you and said an entire ethnic minority family who are seemingly well meaning and peaceful and oresent themselves well have reported from home to have been receiving racist abuse from a young white male what would your first conclusion be? Would you honestly question the narritive of this story or would you see it as quite a typical Saturday night occurance? The far right racist movement in this country is perpetuating this stereotype tbh

Have you read this? Surely this just shows the horrendous reporting from the BBC. A tribute to Henry, nice. No mention of a religious knife being drove into him, no mention of racist accusations, no mention of disgusting and discriminatory policing. All this shows is the restricted, pathetic news reports the majority of the country see. Try getting better news elsewhere.

Also with your logic it is the reason why grooming gangs have gone on for so long, because police and authorities didn’t want to look or be labelled racist.
officers would drop cases because they didn’t want to stir racial tensions, leaving thousands of girls vulnerable and at risk. I think the police need to stop worrying about why they look like, grow a spine and do their jobs properly.

Would somebody be bleeding to death in your hypothetical scenario?

Actually there was another call from a member of the public, with a description of the situation that was closer to reality. But the police chose to believe the call by the family of the attacker.

Mr Nowak said: “The police were told both by our son himself, and by a member of the public who called 999”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/01/sikh-man-who-fatally-stabbed-student-jailed-for-life/
I used to think the Guardian and the BBC were reliable sources of information.
No longer.

It's absolutely standard and has been for decades that a murder or other crime gets reported when it happens and then the mainstream media who have to abide by the law stop saying anything about it while it's all sub judice. Once the trial gets under way they can report on that and obviously they then report the verdict and the sentence and in the most newsworthy cases they then come out with all the background they were unable to report before. It's an absolute nonsense to pretend that the BBC and other media have suppressed this story because the victim was a young white man and the man on trial was a Sikh.

If everybody who is saying that Henry Nowak wasn't killed by a Kirpan can please read the sentencing remarks of the judge.
He was carrying a kirpan and he was carrying a second 'Sikh '(as judge names it) knife which is perfectly legal in this country.
The 'Sikh' knife he carried was 8 inches long and the legal requirement for the length of a Kirpan in this country is up to 9 inches long.
I dont want ANYBODY in this country carrying a knife of that length around in public. It is completely unnecessary.
It is a symbol of the Sikh religion (a very important one at that ) and I respect that however,there is no need for it to be worn as if someone is about to go into battle. A small non-lethal kirpan can be worn around the neck much in the way the cross is worn around the necks of Christians or star of Davids are worn around the neck of Jews.

Yes it is the issue. It isnt for police to decide who needs medical attention and who doesn't. Especially based on whether they are criminals or not

This

That stuff already happens and the man doesn't even need to wear a dress. There was a recent case where the police originally dismissed a woman's murder as suicide. Because the murderer reported it as one.

Disagree.

People didn’t believe it til they saw the video.

This is a case where the young victim was slandered as racist, and continued to be after his death. People need to see how he was left to die, and the absolute scum who took his life away, the sly family members and the disgraceful police.

I think details are usually not given when a case is under investigation in case it prejudices a future trial? I agree the BBC can be crap in its reporting though.

Point accepted and this is where I think the police policy should be to immidately do a careful head to toe assessment if somebody is reporting being stabbed if it isn't already. This was undoubtedly their major error. However as pp have said it is common for criminals to make these claims to try and manipulate the situation so it requires situational judgment which again comes back to pattern recognition vs sterotyping

Because the press don't report on cases once the suspect has been charged so as not to influence the direction of the case or the minds of potential jurors.
I think it is important that jury members are not swayed by press reports (that may be incorrect) when they have potential to put someone in jail for long periods of time.

Agree, also what's to stop someone claiming to be Sikh so they can carry a knife. Who decides who qualifies? The same people as those whose training and policies allowed such a tragic end to Henry's life?

There was widespread condemnation over the Chris Kaba case pre trial, vigils and protests.

Same sub judice rules in place and not the same level of non interest (other than on SM) before then.

"For example, marriages are meant to be registered, but Muslims typically don’t register theirs."

Most Muslims have a civil ceremony.