Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

It’s another example of how dangerous it is for police to have preconceptions.

In the case of Stephen Lawrence, the police assumed the black boy was a troublemaker and the victim of other black boys. Institutional racism needed to be challenged.

In the case of Stephen Port, police assumed the young men overdosed on drugs and failed to spot a serial killer because of institutional homophobia.

It’s important police don’t have preconceived beliefs about who’s a victim.

Just awful

So preventable

It said he told police he couldn't breathe 9 times and that he's been stabbed 4 times!

So unbelievably sad

Its seems now that just being white is enough to be deemed racist.
Honestly who would have heard a peep about George Floyd if his killers hadn't been white police officers?
Would anyone remember Stephen Lawrence if his killers werent white?

This is not a thread about trans.

It is not irrelevant.

The perpetrator was of a religion that is allowed to carry a bladed weapon in the UK. No doubt this emboldened him to think he could carry an even larger ceremonial knife around with him with no consequences. Even expecting that his race/religion would protect him from a murder charge.

Err except obviously he wasn’t allowed to carry the knife he used to stab his victim with. You’re allowed to carry a Swiss Army knife but I doubt people would argue that this emboldens someone to then also carry a huge blade to attack people.

The current law is that you can carry a blade if you have a lawful excuse (eg a tradesperson on their way to a job). It’s very easy to separate out who is carrying for a lawful purpose and who isn’t. Nobody should be allowed to carry for the sake of carrying, religion or not.

It’s so incredibly upsetting.

At the end of the day, the police are often put in very difficult situations and have to make split second decisions. Here, the decision was plainly wrong but it is very difficult if you arrive on a scene, are given an account and then have to decide how you respond. Hindsight is wonderful.

‘I don’t think you have mate’

Yes, as I said, the decision making was plainly wrong here.

May Henry RIP. May Digwa rot in hell. May the police officers hang their heads in shame.

They showed zero humanity to someone who was dying. They just heard the word racist and cuffed a dying man without checking if what he was saying was true. The word racist was enough for them, his white skin was enough. He was treated that way because he was a white male and a brown male accused him of being racist so it was an open and shut case for those dimwit officers. I hope this incident haunts those police officers to their dying days.

Anyone carrying one for a lawful purpose can use it to kill someone who pisses them off. That has happened more times than someone using a religious dagger.

Hurty words ...handcuff him! Ffsake

No that’s unfair and overblowing it. You have no evidence of that, just the same that people claim the police will just randomly shoot at black people, also because of racism. They were told a load of lies at the scene about what happened and responded in a way that in hindsight was wrong. Because they were lied to. How were they meant to immediately know what happened?

I have only seen a very short but but they are cuffing a limp and barely able to speak person as he lies on the ground and stares he has been stabbed. Why? Surely you only need to use cuffs to prevent escape or violence. He couldn't move himself.

You see as someone non-white, I dont see that as the issue at all. What I see as the issue is that irrespective of how racist the victim may have been, if he was telling you he needed immediate medical attention, even if he is the most horrific racist and massive violent criminal. That is the scary thing for me. That the police would.ignore your need for help because they think you did something bad.

it sounds so complacent and dismissive. Idk how anyone can hear it and just wave away as incorrect decision making.

The perpetrator also lied and said he had been physically attacked by Henry so no, not just hurty words.

So many police apologists on here. Very concerning

Can anyone explain if the police that resigned will get off scot free - simply by quitting? I made a formal complaint about medical incompetence to a health authority, and they replied that Dr X had left so that was the end of that.

The video is unbearable to watch. My heart is broken for Henry’s family. Society is broken and knife crime is a national emergency - something radical needs to happen.

Kids in secondary schools are allowed to carry a kirpan, not that it’s widely publicised to the other parents.

Numerous schools I’ve worked with recently, have a kirpan policy. The most recent school I’ve been into, had 5 male students who are permitted to carry a kirpan on site.

No background/family checks, just must be a baptised Sikh and keep it in its sheath on your person. One of the boys had significant physical behaviour concerns…. disaster awaits.

Oh come on now. Watch the video. He's barely able to move and is literally taking his last breath.