Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

Some Sikh leaders were in the news recently condemning the crime and saying they wish to review the position of the religion on blades. There’s no need for a ceremonial kirpan to (a) be carried daily and (b) be sharp enough to cause harm. Many Sikhs just have a charm sized kirpan like a pendant on a necklace.

100% this. It is racism. The fact his killer was never handcuffed is disgraceful. If it had been the other way around and Henry had rang the police to say a Sikh man was being racist to him I don’t think they would have even bothered to come out

Groups of people get exemptions form many laws on religious grounds. Carrying a knife is only one. Followers of different religions are allowed to kill animals in an inhumane way, allow their children to die when they can be saved by doctors, assault babies with a razor blade and remove parts of their anatomy and I'm sure there are many more examples.

He did stab him with a ceremonial kirpan. Read the judge's sentencing remarks. Amazingly, there is an exemption in law for the minority of Sikhs who feel they have to carry a large knife slung across their clothing, so it was perfectly legal for him to have it on display like that. As others have mentioned, this is not legal in other parts of the world and Sikhs have accepted it. I feel there's a strong case for the Sikh community here to agree this is not acceptable and urge Parliament to change the law. And if they don't Parliament should change the law anyway.

And yet Christians could get into trouble for wearing a gold cross on a chain under their uniform.

Time for these religious weapons to be banned in the UK. Sorry Sikhs. (Or blunted).

I heard about this crime months ago and I am very mainstream newsmedia focused- such as BBC, Independent and Guardian news websites

Handcuffing an 18 year old stabbed in the chest as he pleads is unbearable to consider.

You people are shameless.

What did you hear?

Why is it "shameless disrespect" to point out a pattern of Police behaviour?

It's literally all over the news channels today, in papers, people finally talking about it on here, there was none of this on the regular news channels when it actually happened.

Aside from at the airport I don't believe I have been. You can pretend that's to do with my "white privilege" if you want. Unless you're going to come back and claim EVERY non-white person has been subjected to a stop and search?
If not I'm just like a Black 40-something who hasn't been either.

Not really. Once someone was charged, news organisations were very hamstrung in terms of what they were allowed to report until the trial opened. There were plenty of reports of that.

Apparently the murderers brother called the police, AFTER the murderers mother had taken the knife and hidden it.

Which is why she is in custody and I hope they throw the book at her. The brother should be jailed for lying to the police and the mother given a jail term aswell.

Given she has dual citizenship, then after her release, deported to her country of birth.

Go. Away.

They should be done for gross negligence manslaughter

Is it any wonder though the Officers acted in a racist way as you've called it?

Yes those Officers were grossly negligent but for years Police forces and officers have been told by everyone they ARE racist, they stop search too many non-white people, they pull over non-white people in vehicles too much for no reason whatsoever, they don't investigate race incidents properly in comparison to other crimes etc..

It was all over X
Thanks to Elon Musk there is still some exposure to ignored by the Biased Broadcasting Corporation,

I’m surprised at this.

Henry was killed with an ordinary knife not the Kirpan.

Completely agree but of course it won’t happen.

Even Starmer’s statement about this has my fucking blood boiling. “He was a lovely lad who definitely didn’t do the racism of which he was accused”. Fucks sake, as if that’s the first thing to worry about or remember, now he’s died in agony surrounded by indifferent fuckwits, and his family are devastated. It’s almost implying that our actual PM - supposedly one of the grown-ups - thinks the death would have been understandable if the victim had actually said hurty words to a POC.

And the reporting is woeful. The judgment explains that the brothers were chatting in Punjabi, in front of the police, about how they’d be in deep shit if there was video footage of the incident (ie because they’d just lied their arses off). Why is this not reported (because it would prove they were lying about the racism?) Why are the colluding family members not being charged?

The Sikh community as a whole does absolute wonders for a charity I volunteer with, and it’s notable that there have been so few knife-related incidents, but since we cannot trust any police force to act without fear or favour, the religious exception absolutely needs to go.

Yup the Rights for Whites are out in force

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y2lklgpl9o

That a student was murdered in Southampton. This is from December last year.