Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

[EvangelicalAboutButteredToast]

I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

So legalise everyone carrying knives then

What’s the point in policing it?

These awful knife crimes are so common and so terribly, but this one just seems on another level of awful completely.

Whatever about the perpetrator, ...... it's Henry's treatment by the police, his being handcuffed as he told them he was stabbed, his clearly telling them he was struggling, he couldn't breathe, his youth. He was so clearly a young lad.

I just cannot imagine the grief of his family knowing he was treated so appallingly as he was dieing.
Truly shocking.

Well let's ban those too. The real ones I mean. As for Sikhs, their knives are included on the general bans in countries like Denmark, Italy and the UAE, and they all seem to get on ok in those places. Why should any group be given a general exemption to carry a dangerous weapon?

Do you specifically need the PM to say it? I think the Home Secretary was very clear. I’m not a fan of her usually but I thought she was good today.

There was a debate on the Armed Forces bill after her statement, I found myself agreeing with Mark Francois who pointed out that none of the ‘plastic patriots’ of Reform bothered to attend. Jenrick (who actually did say ‘white lives matter’) was there for the Home Sec but was in a hurry to leave. https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2026-06-02/debates/79F8DFEC-32B6-48FB-9F4A-FED8ABE1B4E0/details#contribution-E0D8CCAB-77A4-44C8-B033-FBCF56F28FD3

I tend to think it’s a cop out when people say ‘people don’t want to vote for Reform/Restore/UKIP/Brexit Party’ but no-one else listens’. As if they’re taking one for the team by voting for someone they don’t like. If you want to vote for them, own it. And then when it all turns to shit, own it. And then if there’s any sunlit uplands, you get to own that too.

One Sikh has murdered someone and she wants to throw out all Sikhs.. or stop the boats full of Sikhs? I’m not quite sure because she seems to think all silhs are foreigners coming into the country.

This is absolutely mind blowing. He had murdered a guy who literally died in front of the police officers yet they treated him with total respect where they had given Henry none.

The divisiveness here is the police training that an accusation of racism takes precedent over all other issues - that automatically places the interests of non white people above white people, even unto death.

Farage and Tommy Robinson will never achieve the level of public dissent in their wildest dreams that this government has just caused. I’m sure the Tories are also culpable by allowing EDI and minority representation to trump other considerations.

The discrimination against white men by state organisations like the RAF, MI5, MI6 etc - these cases have been proven but I’m sure are the tip of the iceberg - such cases are notoriously hard to prove. The undermining of British values and our way of life. The refusal to acknowledge the public feeling but continually labelling us as racist and accusing US of sowing division and hatred. It’s all projection. But why are they doing this? Do they hate themselves that much they have to punish us all?

How long are they going to fight us on this?

@EvangelicalAboutButteredToast i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

They didn't recognise it because use of hurty words is considered a far more serious offence in the UK relative to knife crime.

It's literally the stuff of nightmares.

Exactly. There hasn’t been a high profile knife attack carried out by a white female. Does that mean I’m allowed to carry a knife? I don’t think so.

I wish there had been a first responder there- PEARL is one of the most basic checks [pupils equal and responsive to light], a patient can't fake that.

They might not have been able to save him, but if a paramedic was there he might have felt safe, he might have felt cared for.

And they could have made him a little more comfortable, and even though they say his injuries were not compatible with survival - we just don't know. He might have been stabilised long enough to be moved to an ambulance at least and not spend his last minutes on the street.

The divisiveness here is the police training that an accusation of racism takes precedent over all other issues

This.

The encounter happened on the street where Digwa lived. From other photos including a road rage incident and in his office (!) he wore his knife openly. It is unclear what was said but at one point Henry asks if he is a bad man. Quite reasonable given the knife. The response is 'I am a bad man'. Unclear what happens next but Henry is stabbed and slashed in his face and tries to flee. As he is fleeing possibly into the front garden of Digwa's house or a neighbour, he is stabbed in the back of his legs.
Portswood is a very studenty area. My son lived there while at the University. Students are unpopular and there are thefts and lowish level threats. They are easy targets.

You are the one who said that this crime is related to allowing people to come into this country - Sikhs specially and that since one Sikh has killed someone, that’s enough now.

So, what is it you want. All Sikhs deported? We have British Sikhs. We have Sikhs born here. What has this crime for to do with immigration?

Unbelievable. I guess it has never occurred to any of these geniuses that even if the Sikh owners of said knife didn’t intend to use it, another person with criminal intent could just take it from them and use it?

I agree with you, but unfortunately it worked well enough that a teenage boy's last breaths were in handcuffs and without any care or sympathy, and it's clearly absolutely haunting his family.

I also think the sentence is on the lenient side.

We have had enough of this nonsense, stop it.

This is the American (Republican/MAGA[ approach to guns: "guns don't kill people, people kill people", and "if you make guns illegal, only the bad guys will continue to have guns".

So is that what you think about guns too? Should we just legalise any and all weapons, because you know, violence happens anyway?

No.
She wants it to be illegal for everyone to carry knives.

I agree with you, but unfortunately it worked well enough that a teenage boy's last breaths were in handcuffs and without any care or sympathy, and it's clearly absolutely haunting his family.

This is it. No care, no sympathy, accused of something but fully innocent, completely and utterly vulnerable being disbelieved, talked to harshly with no kindness as he laid dying.

There's currently a protest of about a thousand pp outside Southampton police station. Last night I saw the angry, despairing reactions to the footage on Twitter. I don't think I've ever seen such a strong reaction to an event, apart from the murders of the little girls in Southport. I really worry about how febrile things feel right now, and I don't know what the answer to it is. It feels like trust in so many institutions is so low, it's a very dangerous place for a country to be in. I'm 60, and I honestly fear for the future of this country right now. It's so distressing and alarming.

Probably pandered to and indulged by his mum and dad.

Son preference

What? Can you not read?

That poster said that if all knives are made illegal to carry then there would be no more knife crime. Thats idiocy.

Knife crime happens because people carry knives illegally. Outlaw sikh knives today and do you actually believe there would never be another death by a blade? Because that’s what that poster claims. I was pointing out their stupidity. I was not saying legalise knives.

We need to do a lot of work on knife crime, a lot. But they’re already almosr all illegal and we have a huge number of men in this country still stabbing each other. You won’t end knife crime by outlawing Sikh knives as this poster thinks.

Where have I said any of that ? You really do need to grow up if that’s your attitude to a reaction to such an outrage. And what ‘boats full of Sikh’s’ ? Where did that come from ? I didn’t say it so what made you think it ?

I don't think many people have an issue with Sikhs (I won't say nobody, but it's the minority).
What they clearly do have an issue with is the sense of unfairness - that any non-white person can weaponise the word "racism" to the point where the police will stand and chat to you while our victim bleeds out on the ground, and that certain groups are, like in this case, allowed to carry weapons that would get the rest of us arrested.
If we talk about British culture, a sense of fairness is often mentioned, so blatant unfairness is going to rankle, and it's going to stir up tensions.

I don't even think it's racism - people find the police's kid-gloves (shit scared of) handling of Irish travellers frustrating as well, and I don't care how many times I hear they're an ethnic group, they are white.

This.