Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

And read him his rights whilst he was seemingly unresponsive possibly unconscious.

May have already been mentioned, but the murderer was back in court today, together with father and brother, for possession of illegal weapons. Quite the stash they had. Lovely family.

They also need to charge the father and brother. They were all complicit in covering up the truth.

There had never been a case, correct me if I’m wrong, of a Sikh using their religious purpose knife to murder anyone in this country. It wasn’t even used in this case.
There is plenty of knife crime, daily, using both illegal knives and the kind of Knives you have in your kitchen.
Sikhs being allowed to carry their religious symbols are not the problem here.

I dislike what he said about bringing shame on the Sikh community. Who cares? The remarks should’ve been solely about what a despicable individual he is and the damage caused to Henry’s family and his loss of life. For once can they just stop trying to smooth over the ‘community cohesion’ angle

No one should be allowed to carry knives for the purpose of “self defence.”

I am ethnically Indian, though not Sikh. I did however have a number of Sikh friends growing up. Generally in my experience Sikhs are known for their kindness and balance. I have not come across another example of a murder or assault of this type. There are bad people in all groups and clearly this murderer was one. The kirpan is usually very small and not able to do any damage. Think the size of a small nail clipper. There is no religious reason why someone with a long blade should not be stopped and arrested for carrying an offensive weapon. If there is a lack of clarity on this, then further guidance can be issued. In many settings (schools for example, even here in the UK), there are detailed rules agreed with the Sikh community on Kirpans both on size and in some cases having them sewn into material so they simply could never be used.

One would be carrying it due to a religious tenet. Not because they want to carry a knife, threaten people with a knife, look hard and tough, be a thug, prepare for violence. There is no sinister motive. They are carrying it as a religious symbol and there has never been a case of a Sikh using it for violence.

The other would be carrying a knife for all the wrong reasons. Their motive would be simply to carry a knife to use for sinister purposes.

That is the difference. And I despair at the idiots who cannot think that through.

The motivation behind the knife is the issue. No Sikh here has ever (that we can find from public information) used their knife for any harm. But thugs carrying knives for non religious purposes use them daily. That is the difference. That is why there is a difference in law.

The kirpan is not “very small”
There is no official size

The recommended size to take into schools is 3-6 inches!

I agreed with you until the final couple of sentences. Blades, of any size, or in any presentation, should never be brought by children into school, ever.

If one person is allowed then everyone should be allowed, and in particular women, but I can’t see that happening any time soon.

It doesn’t matter.
You can’t charge groups of people with carrying a dangerous weapon but allow one small group based on nothing but their cultural identity.

Arresting someone for carrying a dangerous weapon shouldn’t depend on their answer to the question “what is your religion?”

Actually made me laugh to suggest women would be given equal treatment to foreign men

It also is interesting that a brooch or charm/small pin of a knife satisfies the religious symbolism in many countries.

Knife crime and violence are complicated. However, when there are bad people in every group in society, it’s just strange to think that laws give exemptions with no proper basis. Someone like me, with a low propensity to carry out knife attacks, would not be able to carry these knives around. Some man who has a dodgy arsenal and came to attention of his temple, can carry his weapons around no bother.

I wonder when he gets out after being convicted of murdering Henry Nowak, will he still be able to carry his knives around using this strange religious dispensation. A convicted murder who has used them previously to end someone’s life. That would be quite something.

They have now been:

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2026-06-02/three-southampton-family-members-appear-in-court-on-weapons-charges

I wonder if this would be the case without the mass outrage, though, and the pressure resulting in the footage being released.

Are all Sikhs foreign men? I didn’t know that. I really thought thousands of Sikhs were born in the UK every year 🤔

Methinks you might be racist…

I would gently point out to those who are surprised that Sikhs are legally allowed to carry a Kirpan of a reasonable size that perhaps the reason it never came to your attention before is because is because Sikhs have not been stabbing people, generally law abiding as a group.

Thoughts and prayers with the Novak family, I can’t imagine what they must have gone through.

I'm so fcking angry at the system which means that the police treat some people as more worthy victims than others. This shocking incident demonstrates 2 tier policing with clarity. The police here shouldn't be used as scape goats to avoid people fully acknowledging that we're currently living in some sort of dystopian nightmare where some people are treated differently to others in law. Which has lead to Henry's tragic death and the below.

Just a few examples, there are more.

The 3 traveller rapist boys - let off with a 'good job boys brave you for turning up', Because travellers are a protected community

The Pakistani rape gangs let off for years whilst abusing w/c white girls, because the police were afraid of being called racist. Then barely investigated.

The asian men who attacked police at Manchester airport, no punishment

And now this. Henry Novak walking home from uni. Racially attacked and killed by a man who was then protected by the police, whilst Henry was dragged along the floor, and hand cuffed, arrested, and disbelieved as he told the police he'd been stabbed, and saying I can't breathe several times.

His brother had called the police and said
“We’ve just got attacked racially by some white person. He’s physically attacked my brother, we’re Sikhs, we wear a turban and he’s just attacked my brother. We’re restraining him right now because he’s just attacked my brother and took my brother’s turban off. He also said, he’s verbally attacked my brother racially. I’m not having this as a regular occurrence, I live here, I’m not having this a regular occurrence. He ain’t fighting people, he’s racially attacking people, that’s what he’s doing. Nah, he sees some brown people, that’s what it was.”

Which was ALL lies but he knew exactly what would ensure the police's action. He knew exactly what he was doing.

If it hadn't been for Henry's own mobile phone footage, we'd all be none the wiser.

So what are the gvt going to do about this obvious 2 tier policing that they've directed / encouraged, do we think?

Call me racist you want, my job is literally working directly with refugees. It isn't racist to point out unequal treatment in law.

Thats horrific and outrageous.

They bring it on planes too?

Where have I said they should be?

How many Sikh schoolboys have stabbed a classmate? I’ll wait while you get the number.

When you supported Sikhs being able to carry knives.
The purpose, is for self defence.