Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

💯% agree

I'm so sorry that the Police let Henry and his family down. No doubt the usual BS will come out from the Police about 'lessons having been learned' and the top cheese will resign (with their big fat pension) but life on the streets will carry on as normal.

Only in the UK could the 'racist' card trump being stabbed to death these days.

The religious knife is tiny - more like a badge. Not a risk

The problem was the 20 cm blade he also had

I completely agree.

This country and large parts of Europe are suffering from fatigue caused by immigration and the complete capitulation to woke causes. Common sense flew away years ago. We have run out of understanding. We don’t know how it can be fixed. It’s like some weird social experiment that has gone wrong. And the rich people that allowed it to happen are so far removed from it, they don’t care.

What I don't understand is why the officers didn't realise Henry was bleeding when they patted him down for a weapon, because that's what they should've done the second he was accused of a racist attack – check to see if he was carrying a blade etc. The fact they didn't literally have blood on their hands means they can't have patted him down – which means they didn't follow even the most basic procedure during his arrest. So anyone trying to defend them needs to think on that.

I agree with what you"re saying but....Police officers care about being investigated for months on end and not losing their jobs, the government and Home Office care about public perception which can then escalate to unrest.

As events have shown in the last few years, the Police have never been under the microscope as much as they have now. Yes they should be accountable but they also just want to do their jobs well and go home to their families at the end of their shift.

I am well aware this dreadful case will be jumped on for the wrong reasons by the wrong people - as well as the right reasons by the right people

So tiresome. How bad does it have to get before you understand? They were told he is a racist and so they treated him that way.

Seems to me that the police are systemically racist, but not in the way you think. Anything so as not to upset community relations, the girls must have been sl*ts the boys must have done something racist.

The kirpan is allowed to be up to 9 inches long.
The other knife he had was also a religious knife or a 'sikh' knife as the judge called it and was also not illegal to carry.
Nobody should be carrying a knife around in this country.

Will he be allowed a religious knife in prison? It wouldn't surprise me if you said "Yes of course Baptised Sikhs can have a knife in prison"

You do realise, don't you, that the ethnicity most likely to murder black males are other black males? Are you suggesting that the police should be less efficient in trying to save the lives of black boys and men?

"Official Home Office data for England and Wales shows that the majority of Black homicide victims are killed by principal suspects of the same ethnic group. Criminological research confirms this reflects a broader, country-wide trend: homicides in the UK are predominantly intraracial, with victims most often associated with suspects of the same race." Gov.uk

I expect so. I imagine he was also allowed one in the court house at the trial where he was accused of murdering a teenager with a religious knife. Bonkers.

Even more scary is the fact that ANYONE can self identify as a sikh. There are no formal processes or ceremony to become one.

Anyone can say they are a sikh, and take a six inch blade into their highschool...

I'm sure with the UK the way it is, that won't cause any problems at all.

Meanwhile all the left wingers are like, "why is everyone so right-wing now? Reform... far right... blah blah blah."

I’d rather just require kirpan to be blunt and no more than an inch long than have the government regulate membership of religious groups.

IKR? If men can identify as women, I am sure they can also identify as Sikh.

Can I carry a tiny knife-more like a badge- then? Can my son?

If not. Why Not?

Why was the killer not handcuffed once they found the stab wound and in the station? He was a criminal then too.

It’s illegal to carry a knife with a blade over 3 inches.

So provided your knife is smaller than that - yes you can carry a tiny knife. Your son too.

I appreciate that doesn’t help the point you were trying to make.

Time to reopen the discussion. Maybe that's just not the right thing for anyone to do in the UK in 2026.

Shit
Didn’t realise that

Right, thanks. I'll try and get some that are just under three inches.

That is the length of my index finger; the length of half an iPhone; just under the size of a credit card or a standard crayon.

So, not really tiny and getting larger by the minute if someone stuck it in you.

According to media reports, Times Radio this morning, the knife didn't leave the pouring with blood exit wound you'd expect. Apparently that's common and police officers should have been aware.

Novak died of internal bleeding.

Yes, I think you're right.

They are under the microscope , certainly,but not to see if they are investigating crime-not at all.

Rather they are under the microscope to make sure that they are not racist and boy, will they go under any lengths to make sure they're not.

Up to 9 in some cases, see judge’s comments on this case.

Is there any evidence of the exemption for Kirpans being used to facilitate/cover up stabbings?

Or would the killer here have had a knife anyway?

I understand his father and brother are in court today over a very large number of knives and other weapons at the family home. If that allegation is true then I think we can guess the answer to the question above.