Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

Well said. And sentiments shared by many...

it might also have been the last straw for her.

Sorry. Henry.

I have watched it and I am absolutely disgusted. His hands were white, they let him die.

I think it's worth considering why the murderer and his family acted as they did. If the false racism accusation did not convey some benefit why did they go to that? Why didn't they just tell the lie that Henry had attacked his murderer - two young men fighting? They didn't do that, and according to reports even after sentencing they were trying to play the race card.

They wouldn't have done this if there wasn't a known issue here.

Agree.

Sorry , just seen this. Sikhs can carry a religious knife up to 9 inches long in their day to day.
It's explained in the sentencing remarks of the judge in this case.

Feel sorry for his family, the backlash from this will be enormous.

All he had to do was his job. Call an ambulance, initiate first aid.

You’re very wrong there. Do you work with the police?

Quite agree

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We have a problem in the UK right now. White people are terrified of being called a racist and certain people of ethnic minority know this and use the so-called 'racism card'. The media report it every day and, as in this case, even our police have to check if someone has been racist above all else. This has led to mistrust on all sides and has done more damage than good. The UK is not an inherently racist country. In my opinion blm went too far. Time to heal now. Maybe the media can show some nice stories about how kind and welcoming white british are, because most of us are.

Thank you very much for posting this, I would have had no idea. This is too much for me to watch or look into, I keep Henry’s family in my thoughts.

I am foreign but been here a while and my mother and me married British men. I cannot but AGREE that this country has been sold to people with anti-white and anti-British hatred

I don’t think it’s to do with race. I think it could equally have happened the other way. I think the problem is that the police are not taught to keep an open mind and to think critically. I see quite a lot of true crime podcasts and I watch time and time again that someone will develop a theory or have a hunch or believe a story based on flimsy information or one person’s account and won’t be shaken from it and ignore any evidence that counters it.

Whereas why believe immediately that someone who has reported a crime is automatically innocent while the person actually lying on the ground barely able to speak is in fact guilty? It’s an assumption based on a claim by someone who potentially has a good incentive to lie. It’s not evidence.

If they changed their training to not rely on first impressions or hunches but to keep an open mind then they could have got medical treatment immediately for Henry. I’m not saying it would’ve saved his life but it would have given him comfort and dignity.

The police officer is the tip of the iceberg, it stems from indoctrination with the police and society more broadly. I don’t think the officer was evil but totally misguided and incompetent as a result. To blame the officer completely misses the wider point of why he acted like that.

There are a lot of people who don’t believe it’s possible to be racist towards a white person. .

Your reading comprehension needs work.

I remember a poll on MN where it was asked whether you’d turn your child in if he’d done something wrong.

Surprising amount said no. In many cultures, this is acceptable behavior. You are to protect your own, especially in multicultural settings.

If you are the only one playing fair, you will lose.

What on earth is your evidence for saying the police are poorly trained? Are you just parroting US sound bites, which are true about many small local police forces but are just not true about the British police, where large amounts of money are spent on training police.

What there are being taught is another question - but it’s not for lack of investment!

The footage is heartbreaking. That poor boy. I believe the police should.be held accountable for this, even if there was no saving him, to have his last moments without respect and care is horrendous, he was treat like a criminal, surrounded by the monsters that did this to him and belittled by the police who were there to protect him. Shame on everyone of them!

@Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim
I feel sick reading that link... 😥

"We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension. We want his story to help make our streets safer for everyone."

I think a few people need to bear Mark Novak's words in mind

Remember Manchester Airport, everyone was in uproar about the kick to the head, before it transpired the ‘victim’ had brutally attacked police officers including female police officers. In that scenario ‘racism’ was the first accusation too, before the whole story unfolded.

They can. They very much should not be able to. We have a massive knife crime problem and yet...I am well aware this dreadful case will be jumped on for the wrong reasons by the wrong people - as well as the right reasons by the right people but being allowed to carry a massive weapon for religious reasons should not be allowed.