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Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 06:57

I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

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NeuroticGingerCat · Yesterday 11:04

TwoPercentForLookingInTheMirrorTwice · Yesterday 10:57

She explained how it connects to a wider societal issue in the post you responded to. Nothing else needed to be said, but you are the one who derailed because you couldn’t accept the opinion. You keep calling people disgusting and slamming their viewpoint simply because you disagree with their belief, and you are wilfully blind to the actual point that they were making. And perhaps it suits your bias to contribute to the derailment of this thread. Some people will do anything to avoid the subject.

But nothing more needs to be said about the wider issue. I think @NeuroticGingerCat explained it well, so what’s more to be said? You don’t see it, but who cares? You don’t need to argue the toss about your thoughts on fucking gender. It’s not the time or place.

Thank you
They never address the points, do they?
Because they can't

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 11:05

The phone call by the brother to 999 has just been released. Well this explains why the police reacted the way they did doesn’t it?! I think lessons are going to be learned from this going forward. I know the mother is going to be sentenced but I haven’t heard anything about the brother and the fact that he also lied to the police in this phone call.

www.dailymail.com/news/article-15866675/henry-nowak-murder-killers-brother-told-police.html

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PropertyD · Yesterday 11:05

Why did this scum actually stab Henry?

Just why? His family are truly the scum of the earth, Mother, brother. They should rot in hell.

Pinnacles · Yesterday 11:06

You can carry a kirpan but not wear a Jewish star. Both religious symbols and both treated totally differently....https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/06/01/jewish-woman-star-david-pendant-out-sauna-spain/?recomm_id=978b7cb2-7328-403a-85b5-753bdfc24968

Wot23 · Yesterday 11:06

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 11:00

Are you suggesting that Sikhs are disproportionately likely to be perpetrators of knife crime? Do you have evidence of this?

there are 2 sentences in the post I replied to. Read the second one again so you understand my comment, which is not what you want to derail it into

Tortoisel · Yesterday 11:08

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 11:05

The phone call by the brother to 999 has just been released. Well this explains why the police reacted the way they did doesn’t it?! I think lessons are going to be learned from this going forward. I know the mother is going to be sentenced but I haven’t heard anything about the brother and the fact that he also lied to the police in this phone call.

www.dailymail.com/news/article-15866675/henry-nowak-murder-killers-brother-told-police.html

Wow, he needs to be put in jail too.

Wot23 · Yesterday 11:09

Emilesgran · Yesterday 11:00

Who did that? You apparently. I just used correct pronouns. I made no generalisation about sex or gender.

it’s not my doing if the officer who resigned seems to have been the only one who did anything right, and was ignored by other officers whose sex I don’t know.

We do hear at least one male talking, as well as the woman who wanted to check his injuries, but that doesn’t mean there were no other female officers attending and I never said there weren’t.

of all the aspects of this horrific incident that was the one you decided to focus on. The inference of you doing so is obvious and no, the check for injuries was far from "doing everything right"

TwoPercentForLookingInTheMirrorTwice · Yesterday 11:09

Alexandra2001 · Yesterday 11:01

I'm actually not particularly pro police but ...

Why was it racist when the first officers on the scene didn't realise he had been stabbed?

The Police deal with lots of people who say all sorts of things, most of which are not true.

They tried to save him once they realised their mistake.

Because they ignored the evidence of their own eyes and simply saw the race of the victim and the race of the murderer and the fact that the Brown perpetrator had accused the White victim of racism.

Race is integral to this whole thing.

If you acknowledge that “The Police deal with lots of people who say all sorts of things, most of which are not true.” then why wasn’t that the case when a White lad was accused of racism? Because of racial bias ie racism.

Emilesgran · Yesterday 11:09

Alexandra2001 · Yesterday 11:01

I'm actually not particularly pro police but ...

Why was it racist when the first officers on the scene didn't realise he had been stabbed?

The Police deal with lots of people who say all sorts of things, most of which are not true.

They tried to save him once they realised their mistake.

It was racist in the same way as the Stephen Lawrence police encounter was racist: because of the assumptions made by the police and the time lost as a result. Time that could potentially have saved his life - and I know they’re saying not, but that’s irrelevant because 1) they didn’t know that at the time, and 2) there has been so much poor reporting on this that we can’t yet be sure that this is necessarily true.

But the main point is that they didn’t know that, so it’s not relevant to why they didn’t act properly.

Gloriia · Yesterday 11:09

'They tried to save him once they realised their mistake'

He was collapsed, clearly something catastrophic had occurred. After a minute of doing fuck all except cuff him a pc mumbles oh his pupils are fixed. I mean seriously they tried to save him?!

Once on scene they should've immediately called for an ambulance and immediately initiated first aid. That would been trying to save him.

IsadoraQuagmire · Yesterday 11:11

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Don't be so ridiculous. It's completely relevant.

PistolPacker · Yesterday 11:11

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 11:05

The phone call by the brother to 999 has just been released. Well this explains why the police reacted the way they did doesn’t it?! I think lessons are going to be learned from this going forward. I know the mother is going to be sentenced but I haven’t heard anything about the brother and the fact that he also lied to the police in this phone call.

www.dailymail.com/news/article-15866675/henry-nowak-murder-killers-brother-told-police.html

That rat needs a sentence now, racist liars 😡

Twisterlollies · Yesterday 11:12

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 10:33

If we ban Sikh people from carrying knives, someone else would still be stabbed to death the same week. It would make no impact on knife crime stats at all.

So let’s legalise everything because people will do it regardless..?

WheretheFishesareFrightening · Yesterday 11:13

Ihateboris · Yesterday 08:47

They are still allowed to carry knives though.

They are. But not the kind this murder was committed with.

Fixydodah · Yesterday 11:13

How did the mum and dad get there so quickly? Did the murder happen outside the murderers house?

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 11:13

TwoPercentForLookingInTheMirrorTwice · Yesterday 10:57

She explained how it connects to a wider societal issue in the post you responded to. Nothing else needed to be said, but you are the one who derailed because you couldn’t accept the opinion. You keep calling people disgusting and slamming their viewpoint simply because you disagree with their belief, and you are wilfully blind to the actual point that they were making. And perhaps it suits your bias to contribute to the derailment of this thread. Some people will do anything to avoid the subject.

But nothing more needs to be said about the wider issue. I think @NeuroticGingerCat explained it well, so what’s more to be said? You don’t see it, but who cares? You don’t need to argue the toss about your thoughts on fucking gender. It’s not the time or place.

I called them disgusting (which they are) for trying to shoehorn their own obsession into this man's death.

BeamFloorDoor · Yesterday 11:14

WheretheFishesareFrightening · Yesterday 11:13

They are. But not the kind this murder was committed with.

You are wrong. Read the sentencing remarks. This was a second, religious, knife also permitted for religious reasons.

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 11:14

Twisterlollies · Yesterday 11:12

So let’s legalise everything because people will do it regardless..?

No lets not make irrelevant things illegal under the guise of fighting serious violence.

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 11:15

IsadoraQuagmire · Yesterday 11:11

Don't be so ridiculous. It's completely relevant.

It really isnt.

TwoPercentForLookingInTheMirrorTwice · Yesterday 11:15

Wot23 · Yesterday 11:09

of all the aspects of this horrific incident that was the one you decided to focus on. The inference of you doing so is obvious and no, the check for injuries was far from "doing everything right"

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@Emilesgranmade quite a thought provoking observation. You are the one who brought the weird “gender conspiracy” into it.

It didn't sound to me like she was trying to blame the males involved whilst absolving the female officer…if that’s what you mean?

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 11:15

NeuroticGingerCat · Yesterday 11:04

Thank you
They never address the points, do they?
Because they can't

Points about trans people are irrelevant to the murder of this man by another man.

UltimateSloth · Yesterday 11:16

Pinnacles · Yesterday 11:06

You can carry a kirpan but not wear a Jewish star. Both religious symbols and both treated totally differently....https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/06/01/jewish-woman-star-david-pendant-out-sauna-spain/?recomm_id=978b7cb2-7328-403a-85b5-753bdfc24968

That's irrelevant as the incident happened in Spain and there are no laws against displaying a Jewish star in the UK (or Spain) that I'm aware of

IsadoraQuagmire · Yesterday 11:17

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Emilesgran · Yesterday 11:18

Wot23 · Yesterday 11:09

of all the aspects of this horrific incident that was the one you decided to focus on. The inference of you doing so is obvious and no, the check for injuries was far from "doing everything right"

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No you’re projecting.

It’s not even the first aspect of the case that I posted about on this thread, for one thing. Nor did I say she was the only female officer there. I actually read previously that three women officers attended, so I definitely wasn’t saying she was the only one because I don’t know that.

But I am suggesting that the one (female) police officer who seems to have made some effort to check whether Henry Nowak was stabbed may well have been the female police officer we are told has resigned. If that’s the case, it’s not her sex that’s the problem, it’s the habit of removing personnel whose testimony may be awkward for the institution that bothers me.

(If it turns out that she was the only female officer on the ground, that would be an interesting case to consider every time we are told that female police officers shouldn’t attend incidents because they aren’t capable of doing the job. However we really are not there yet.)

Meanwhile, look at the beam in your eye instead of trying to find a mote in mine.

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 11:20

Absolutely devastating, I can’t imagine the pain his parents and loved ones must be in.

I hope that each of the police officers involved is deeply ashamed of their actions that night. That a young man died in fear, pleading for help is unconscionable. I truly hope it haunts them.

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