Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

Honestly!! it's exhausting- the pretending not to understand- but here goes- ok keep it to race- if you make racism the worst thing possible and if you call anything and everything racism to boot- and the result of any infraction is to be shunned socially, then we tend to fall in line and stay quiet- furthermore, others no doubt like your good self positively relish in the moral superiority that adherence to this can confer- not just staying quiet but lambasting any transgressors.
I can almost feel your virtue.
I've come to realise that every tyrannical movement, ideology or despot completely relies on useful idiots to give it legitmacy and create an environment of fear. This is what you've helped to sustain- well done.

I honestly don't think they can.

The first one i remember making headlines news was when Wayne and Corey were shot in Hackney. Before that, there were murders every week. I went to school with a 15 year old boy in the late 90s who was shot with a machine gun 5 times. He lived and it never hit any major organs. Wasn't even in our local paper.

Read the judge's sentencing remarks. It's all in there. Not that long and in reasonably plain language. /https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

What if we say please? It's shameful they way you hijack tragedies like this.

This was racism in its finest ! Just because he was a young white male ! I am very pro police but this was descipicable.

Because she thought it was the right thing to do. Too many Officers get suspended on full pay pending a lengthy investigation when they know damned well what they did was wrong.

I doubt very much their first thought was protecting Sikhism. Like a great many families and friends all over the world and all through time they protected a loved one, even as he was proving he didn't deserve their protection.

An 18 year old was stabbed, handcuffed and wrongly accused. His pleas were ignored with ‘I don’t think so mate’. Only a few are as unmoved by it as this.

I wonder if she was pushed into resigning as a way of preventing her testimony from harming the other officers.

so a method informed by statistical analysis of knife crime perpetrators perhaps..... ?

Why would I do that though? The channels that I watch or listen to report when the facts are actually placed before a jury in court.

I don't want to hear speculation. I only want to hear opinions once all the facts have been put before me. That's why I do things like actively read the judge's comments to the court.

I am just as upset about the death of Henry Nowak as you seem to be and I know that one of the reasons he died apart from being stabbed by the perpetrator was because of the way that the police responded to the stabbing.

I also want to see the Kirpan banned in this country and for a small symbol to be worn around the neck just in the way a cross or a star of david is worn.

Just because I read mainstream media doesn't mean I don't have opinions of my own. I do believe that racism towards Henry was why, when he was lying on the ground dying, he was still being put in handcuffs and the brown man who stabbed him remained uncuffed.

I don't understand why you've said this in response to my post. I was answering the question why there wasn't blood visible and yet he had been fatally stabbed. The police officer's response was unspeakably cold. That goes without saying, surely.

why feel the need to inflate it into a gender conspiracy ?

it could be that she was overwhelmed with disgust at her own actions in failing to carry out a "proper" check for injuries as shown in the body cam video

So it’s not about religion at all then? In that case people need to stop arguing that the exemption is justified, because it’s really just another instance of the fallacy of assuming that any particular category of males can be considered to be safe.
So get rid of the exemption that says that Sikh men are different and safer than other men. No legal knives for anyone.

The video is horrific & I can’t imagine the feelings Henry Nowak’s family when it was shown in court. Thank heavens for police body cams.

I think the wearing of Kirpan in public should be banned now as a matter of public & community safety.
If you didn’t know before that Sikhs carry a knife for religious reasons, you do now.
If they continue to carry them they are making themselves vulnerable to attack.
The length or sharpness of the blade doesn’t matter, you can still do a lot of damage with them.
It’ll be easy to attack them, you don’t even need a weapon as they’ll already be carrying them.
Likewise their knives can be taken from them & used by others on others.
I’m not saying that Kirpans can be no longer used for religious purposes. They can be kept at a Gurdwara during worship & celebration & stored there safely when not being used.
I realise that the kirpan should be carried at all times as per their religion but sadly for community safety, this should change. We’re living in a different world now.

Yes I know the blade used by Digwa was considerably larger than a kirpan but as a member of Sikhs called the Nihang, he was allowed to carry a second weapon larger than a traditional kirpan & it can be worn fully visible, within easy reach. He was able to lawfully carry the blade as it was for religious reasons.

It is so awful. I couldn't bear to watch it on the news. His family will never recover from this.

Which would reveal that poverty, substandard education/exclusion, and famiky breakdown are the most common traits in perpetrators of knife crime.

She explained how it connects to a wider societal issue in the post you responded to. Nothing else needed to be said, but you are the one who derailed because you couldn’t accept the opinion. You keep calling people disgusting and slamming their viewpoint simply because you disagree with their belief, and you are wilfully blind to the actual point that they were making. And perhaps it suits your bias to contribute to the derailment of this thread. Some people will do anything to avoid the subject.

But nothing more needs to be said about the wider issue. I think @NeuroticGingerCat explained it well, so what’s more to be said? You don’t see it, but who cares? You don’t need to argue the toss about your thoughts on fucking gender. It’s not the time or place.

I don’t understand how this has happened.

The murderer rung the police to say he’s been the victim of a racist attack and they just turn up like that?

I read somewhere initially a member of the public called to say someone had been stabbed. I can’t see that anywhere now.

I cant believe in his dying moments that he had his face in the ground and hand cuffs on. And they never cuffed the murderer. Even after they realised they had helped kill his victim. I am sorry what. What the fuck is actually going on!!!!

This is a good point. One of the main arguments as to why women can't carry self-defense items such as pepper spray or indeed a knife is that it'll be used against them even though when women are attacked by men there is a huge differential in power and strength (so the obvious initial analysis is that they should be allowed defensive weapons only to be used when under attack).

Why doesn't this argument also hold for Sikhs? Are only Sikh men allowed to wear these? Because that's a bit sexist if so.

Who did that? You apparently. I just used correct pronouns. I made no generalisation about sex or gender.

it’s not my doing if the officer who resigned seems to have been the only one who did anything right, and was ignored by other officers whose sex I don’t know.

We do hear at least one male talking, as well as the woman who wanted to check his injuries, but that doesn’t mean there were no other female officers attending and I never said there weren’t.

Are you suggesting that Sikhs are disproportionately likely to be perpetrators of knife crime? Do you have evidence of this?

I'm actually not particularly pro police but ...

Why was it racist when the first officers on the scene didn't realise he had been stabbed?

The Police deal with lots of people who say all sorts of things, most of which are not true.

They tried to save him once they realised their mistake.

You’re surprised at a religion - any religion - being sexist?? You’re being sarcastic, right?