Henry Nowak - just watched the video for the first time

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I don’t understand how the officers could not tell he had been stabbed. He repeatedly says he can’t breathe and when he says he has been stabbed, they say, ‘I don’t think so mate.’ When he says it again they ask where and he says his face, they then roll him over so they can look at his face, and the video ends with the officer saying the handcuffed victim was likely going to be sick.

i completely understand the officers went there having been told a lie and you see the perpetrator on the video retelling the lie and claiming he’d been a victim of a racist assault, i just can’t understand how the officers didn’t recognise the guy on the floor was dying.

Agree.

The police have to make assumptions every single day. How they thought he was lying is unbelievable. But people also lie to them every day. My worry is the position of power and the failure to listen in this circumstance. Yes it was being claimed it was racially motivated but he was the one on the floor. I am white and have had racial comments as apparently I don’t look white British. It happens and the police failed to understand that. To die in pain without help as a victim is beyond horrendous.

You've never seen a report where police are looking for a 'young white male, brown hair, blue eyes'? Really?

I just feel so deeply horrified after watching that video. Trussed up on the floor, dragged and ignored. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from the Officers involved. Heart goes out to his family. His Dad was simply incredible and wanted to be his son’s voice.

I've just watched a this again and I got the order of the reluctant check the wrong way round. Officer checks the barely an inch under his shirt at his side first and THEN the woman says, "we have to check, don't we," and then they just... don't.

I also heard on the second go round that the murderer's father says to the police as soon as they arrive, "I'm just trying to keep him sat up. He's got a mouthful of blood."

Wouldn't that set alarm bells ringing? What do you mean he's got a mouthful of blood? Regardless of the fact he repeatedly says, "I've been stabbed" and, "I can't breathe" shortly afterwards, you have been TOLD by someone other than the person you currently think is the suspect that he's got a mouthful of blood. EVEN if you think that's likely self-inflicted, why the fuck does your duty of care and first aid not kick in at that point before you man-handle him out from under the car and start pulling him about into sitting and then on his side and handcuffing the hands of a clearly incapacitated man behind his back?

Yet if the perpetrator was white it'd be front page news and we'd have riots and looting, why the black on black knife crime gets so little msm attention and outrage is baffling. Even saying this I wonder if I'll get deleted as someone may take offence at the glaringly obvious being stated.

'I also heard on the second go round that the murderer's father says to the police as soon as they arrive, "I'm just trying to keep him sat up. He's got a mouthful of blood." Wouldn't that set alarm bells ringing?'

You'd think so wouldn't you.

“I don’t think you have mate.”

Disgraceful.

Id say trying to wedge in trans issues into the topic of a young adult man being horrifically murdered is what is the most distasteful. Its as if his death isnt important enough without you trying to make it about women in some way. Fucking narcissistic as hell.

As far as I'm aware it was a perfectly ok in the Sikh religion for the ceremonial dagger they carry to be a blunt miniature version, not capable of inflicting severe harm. The length of the sword is not described in their religious code of conduct.

Possibly this is something that can be looked into.

I have just seen an article on BBC news, why is this only just being published now when it happened last year? I also saw the body cam footage, where had he actually been hurt and how were the police not able to see?

If the kirpan is a religious symbol for Sikhs, why does it have to be sharp? Why can't it just be symbolic, the knife looks like a war knife as in the olden very olden days but for this day and age it is blunt?

I read on another comment that the blade used for the attack was actually another knife - not even the ceremonial dagger

No not really. Not more than any other suspect. Sometimes they dint release descriptions because they actually slow down the number of relevant calls. Eye witness testimony is unreliable. He might have had blonde hair and now nobody will report his movements.

Err, what are you talking about. I agree that there’s no need to bring the issues that trans activists have created into this discussion, but that poster was simply explaining in a clear and coherent way how this connects to a wider societal issue. How did you miss that?

Actually, are you the poster who used this thread as an opportunity to post how White British boys should be treated differently to minimise crime? Because if you are you are the one who needs to STOP. And read the fucking room.
The tide is turning against your type disgusting rhetoric, and you can no longer get away with doing it so fucking blatantly on a thread about a boy who was MURDERED AND COMPLETELY DISREGARDED because he was White. Get used to it and learn to keep your racist thoughts to yourself.

The judge’s comments on the weapon are below.

Because the court case has ended.

from what I have seen, she was the one who realised they had got it wrong and was ignored by the other police.

It’s been common for a long time. The number of young, mostly black, mostly men killed in London was all over the news 20 years ago. Largely gang related. Kids getting drawn in to drug trafficking and it goes from there. Really sad. Often kids who are vulnerable in some way, frequently from broken homes where Dad doesn’t bother and Mum is trying to make ends meet. Their grandparents were often lovely wholesome Churchgoing Christians who had were trying to hold the family together and completely out of their depth when it came to the underworld their grandchildren had become part of.

If you read the judge's sentencing remarks, which have been linked, he says that the murderer stabbed Henry in the chest and severed a vein. There was a great deal of internal bleeding to the chest cavity. Two pints of blood there at the post mortem. By the time the police arrived there was nothing anybody could have done to save him, sadly. He had other stab wounds but the one to the chest was by far the most serious.

Because the mainstream media downplay and hide anything to do with crimes committed by ethnic minorities. People who view media such as GB news, X and things on social media have known and been disgusted for months.

It doesnt connect to any wider issue related to trans people. It has nothing to do with it at all. If you agree with that, you should be shutting it down, too.

Even so, under the current climate of knife crime, carrying a usable knife under the guise of religion isn't a good look and not something to be encouraged.