The Restore Britain March seems to have gone pretty well today from what I can glean online.

[EvangelicalAboutButteredToast]

It could be a faulty algorithm, but the trouble the PM seemed to think would happen doesn’t seem to have materialised. I’ve seen clips from the march where a diverse mix of people have marched, not just football hooligan types.

Bookies don't currently agree with you.

Eta: Sigh. Just realised who I am engaging with.

Imploding.

Tick, tock…

Then, stick some on (but you wont/cant).

There is no credible route. It’s precisely because the LP is currently unpopular that they won’t be triggering a GE. But, ya know, 1979.

Regardless of whether I support Farage and Reform I would enjoy that very much. There would be much much gnashing of teeth etc. One can only hope.

I believe the phrase is “you lost, get over it”.

They have a large majority so safe until the general election. A change of leadership could strengthen them in time for when they go to the polls.

Ok, but how is all of that going to result in an early GE unless the polls radically change in Labour's favour?

I'm not asking whether it should, I'm asking how it will - given your assertion that we'll have an early GE.

It's not going to happen and you really need to get over it.

Again I repeat. An early election isn't going to happen.

Yep, it was an absolute mess of different proposals for different places. I maintain that a properly equal federal system would have left a much more stable legacy, rather than either the mishmash compromise Blair proposed or the mishmash compromise we have now.

Well that's your view but the question asked was put to a popular vote in various areas. A democratic process was put in place.

Unlike the Brexit referendum.

The question wasn't asked and it's silly to pretend that the confusing mess that was the English regional devolution proposal is anything like a referendum on a fully federated national system for the UK.

As it stood, one region said yes, one region said no, no one else got a say and we've been haphazardly dribbling out local devolution ever since while still having unequally distributed powers nationally.

They have been calling for a GE and resignations since Labour got into government

Very repetitive

Don’t pretend this wasn’t a racist march. No one’s buying it. People concerned about immigration who are not racist don’t go on a march organised by Tommy Robinson

Yep. And they hijack every thread they can to agitate for one. They'll be chuntering on about civil unrest shortly. And gilts.

I think they realise Farage could be running out of rope. Tick, tock...

That’s hilarious. It’s as though you can’t read the thread. Mumsnet isn’t called a Vipers Nest for nothing.

Oh and it'll get hilariously worse after a change of leader. And will also have the exact same effect that Keir Starmer calling for an early GE had in 2022/23.

(Reminder for those who need it: Sunak had about half the working majority Starmer currently has.)

I certainly don’t want an early general election. I think destabilising the country is a very bad idea. What I want is Labour to pick a new leader, get behind them and show some strength and courage. Watching them squirm during Prime Ministers Questions is very unsettling.

Oh I was just pointing out that being called a wanker isn’t half as bad as a group calling for the death of Jews but never mind

Nigel Farage, Richard Tice and Rupert Lowe are all multimillionaires. Can you name any others?

I'm old so I remember 1979. Callaghan losing the motion of no confidence by one vote which ushered in 18 years of misery under Conservative rule.

We are still feeling the effects today with the selling off of council houses at massively discounted rates and refusing to build new ones from the profits and the privatisation of all the utilities using the profits from North Sea Oil (unlike Norway who invested their profits in a sovereign wealth fund which is now worth about two trillion dollars).

However, neither Thatcher or Major were anything like as bad as Farage. They were serious, intelligent and hard working politicians, not just right-wing grifters like Farage & Co. who are deeply unserious and fascist adjacent.

Yeah. The far right are famous for their thing about Jewish folk.

Is that all forgotten now ?

To be called a wanker by the far right is not a bad thing.

Do you think the far right are friends of Jews? Did you see the banner?

It Kemi Badenoch who fails consistently at PMQs. Goodness can you not see that? Even I squirm for her, and I really dislike her as a politician.

I know. It must be so disheartening and tiresome for them.

That's enough sympathy! 😁