The Restore Britain March seems to have gone pretty well today from what I can glean online.

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It could be a faulty algorithm, but the trouble the PM seemed to think would happen doesn’t seem to have materialised. I’ve seen clips from the march where a diverse mix of people have marched, not just football hooligan types.

Now here’s an idea. Maybe every one of those ‘crusaders’ should have taken a bit of time out from their march to visit the Temple Church, and pray before the tombs of their long-dead heroes for wisdom and guidance?

Actually, I’m pretty sure that very many of those marching weren’t well enough educated to know anything about the crusades, the Knights Templar or medieval history.

You truly believe that all of the the 200 odd Labour MPs outside the cabinet are extreme left Corbynites? That's an unusual point of view especially since the actual Corbyn and several of his supporters in the Commons have lost the whip and sit as independents. I mean my own backbench Labour MP is rather moderate but perhaps he's been hiding his true beliefs from his constituents? Who knows?

So the backbench MPs represent their constituents (and garner views via a number of means). They examine legislation, sit on committees, hold the government to account, carry out constituency activities. Your view of Parliament makes it seem as though it's a bear pit with the only role of elected representatives being to disrupt the business of the House. Why do you think that - where have you formed that view?

I'm left wing. I support Palestine. I've never gone to a march and chanted anti semitic hate. Ever in my life.

You think Yaxley-Lennon is a normal person. He's been sent to prison five times. For assault. For mortgage fraud.

He's also a massive grifter. He makes lots of money out of people, some who probably can't afford it.

It's shifted both ways, if that is possible. Sadly most of us are sandwiched between far left and far right, not being listened to by either. We have lost all nuance somewhere along the line. Some of us hunker down, waiting for better times, some (unfortunately) start gravitating towards the more extreme ends of the horseshoe. People like the appalling Yaxley-Lennon (and Farage, sadly) are unfortunately very well versed in simplistic platitudes which some people find appealing. The same applies to their equivalents on the left.

i coukd ask ChatGPT for you. I don’t need her to represent me. I do think if politicians can’t answer very simple questions because they are terrified of the backlash then they are weak and to use a word that was directed at me earlier, pathetic.

Exactly this! Most people would be horrified to be called a racist but the term is being so overused it is losing its effect. Same with the claim that someone is far-right. I suspect that many of the "ordinary people" who attended that march yesterday might not have done so a few years back but they are no longer afraid of being called those names because it's becoming commonplace, particularly for the working class who have been told, repeatedly, since Brexit, that they are too old, too racist, too stupid, too poor, etc by the left, politicians and those who think themselves superior
It's sad that our society is tearing itself apart like this instead of being more inclusive

excuse me?

I couldn’t give a shit about Reform. You are all obsessed with Reform. I don’t care who deflects to that party, let them go and let the door shut on their arse.

They aren't normal people, they're an extremist minority. Nor al people suggests their views are of the majority.

Yes. The Papacy being quite a famously Christian organisation who used the Knights (the ironically-named Poor Fellow-Soldiers of
Christ) for their Christian crusades.

I don't think you can give Clement all the credit, tbh, his hand was pretty much forced by France.

Either way, hard to argue that invoking them in a modern context is unaligned with Christianity.

A more interesting question is why align with an order that failed in its goals.

You would expect London churches to be absolutely rammed with visiting worshippers today, wouldn't you?

There's an election slogan for Ms Badenoch if she makes it to the next election.

"Vote For Me: I Straddle Hot Potatoes"

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I was there as I was on my way to the theatre and all I saw was a lot of drunk people shouting abuse at the police. I stood and watched for about half an hour and that's about 95% of what I saw. Some were kicking or throwing rubbish about as well.

It's not mental gymnastics.

They don't attend Church. They don't read the bible or know anything about it.

They don't talk about God at all.

Tell me one far-right leader in the UK who has ever mentioned God in any statement they've made.

Or any of their supporters.

They haven't.

They're claiming England is a Christian country based on history and because it's a way of 'combating' Islam.

None of them ever mention God.

Christians mention God and the Bible frequently.

All of the US Christian Nationalists mention God and the Bible frequently.

They're not Christians, they don't go to Church, they don't mention the Bible, they don't talk about God ever.

Christianity is based on a belief in God and Jesus.

Christian nationalism is based on WHAT GOD WANTS, that is the fundamental basis of Christian nationalism - they are soldiers working for God in white supremacy, anti-abortion, homophobia.

Trump alligned himself with Christian Nationalists to win votes. Was 'blessed' by a bunch of Christian pastors putting their hands on his head in public and claiming God had appointed him as president and claimed after the assasination attempt in 2024 he has been saved by divine intervention.

That would be fucking laughable in the UK.

Literally none of the right wing leaders in the UK mention God ever.

They're not Christian let alone Christian nationalists.

Which Christian churches and pastors/leaders are involved in this Christian nationalist movement?

There are hundreds in the US, if there's a Christian Nationalist movement in the UK, there must be churches and leaders involved?

£4.5 million for 45 arrests £100,000 for every protester - talk about overkill!

Yes France did have a hand in the ignominious downfall due to crippling debts.

The current Pope Leo XIV has quite controversial views that Trump dislikes.

Affiliated with many racist groups but getting upset at being called racist

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2026/05/16/big-money-dwindling-crowds-tommy-robinson-demonstration-draws-smaller-crowds-than-expected/

All of these things are indeed true. I'm not sure on the relevance, but not disputing the truth of any of these statement.

Quote : "It's sad that our society is tearing itself apart like this instead of being more inclusive"

Inclusive of exclusive policy ? Is that not a paradox ?

Makes my head spin thinking about it.

So my DD for example. Mixed race. So if a political group where I am said that one of her 2 races should not be allowed to attend her school, I should embrace that person's political views in the name of being inclusive ?

How does that work then ?

The 'overkill' was the reason not many arrests needed to be made.

A quick Google search would tell you that you are completely wrong. There are around 15 MPs who are still in Parliament who very much aligned with Corbyns views and some of them are no longer Labour MPs - other people left or were de selected or have chosen to align with Starmer

There have been no policies blocked by Labour back benchers since 2024. At most there have been delays or modifications to policies.

You started a thread about the Unite the Kingdom March so people are now talking about political parties on the right.

My husband's two siblings were born abroad to British parents, his mother was also born abroad as her father was serving in the army.

Where do you want all of them to go? Can they stay but have less rights?

I like it! Put it on a bus.