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Why are Jewish people facing persecution in the UK?

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Villanousvillans · Yesterday 00:27

I don’t understand why Jewish people are being persecuted in this country. What is wrong with people?

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Ohjailer · Yesterday 07:32

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This post is a great example of the current racist propaganda which has created the racist culture that is leading to Jews being murdered in the West.

That @snippet genuinely thinks she has done research rather than listened to partisan propaganda explains how social media is creating hate filled division.

I’m genuinely stunned that people think vilifying a nation of people like this is not racist ( discriminating against people due to their nationality comes under racial discrimination in UK law). Especially when that nation is the only nation with a majority Jewish population in the entire world.

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:32

The Genocide of the Palestinians is triggering the attacks on Jewish people. It’s an explanation, not a justification.

Yes, there was increasing hostility to Jewish people before the latest exterminatory war on Gaza, but the genocide has been going on for many decades - it’s not a new thing.

SharonEllis · Yesterday 07:34

As of now Saudi Arabia is the biggest market in the Middle East for UK weapons whereas the UK accounts for less than 1% off Israel's arms imports. In what way is the UK government supporting Israel? Of course we defend Israel's right to defend itself but the UKngovernment has been critical of many aspects of the war in Gaza and with Iran.
https://caat.org.uk/data/countries/saudi-arabia/uk-arms-to-saudi-arabia/

And since when did people only care about things happening in the world if the UK government 'supports' them? What does that mean? How do you define support? We dont actively support the genocide of the Uighyurs but what exactly are we doing to stop it?

CAAT - UK arms to Saudi Arabia

The UK has continued to support air strikes by Saudi Arabia and its coalition partners in Yemen, in spite of overwhelming evidence of repeated breaches of international humanitarian law by the coalition.

https://caat.org.uk/data/countries/saudi-arabia/uk-arms-to-saudi-arabia

dairydebris · Yesterday 07:35

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Its funny how you say here not to tar everyone with the same brush, but then go on to tar most Israelis in particular the younger generation with the same brush.

This thread handily shows why lots of Jews face persecution in the UK.

SharonEllis · Yesterday 07:36

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:32

The Genocide of the Palestinians is triggering the attacks on Jewish people. It’s an explanation, not a justification.

Yes, there was increasing hostility to Jewish people before the latest exterminatory war on Gaza, but the genocide has been going on for many decades - it’s not a new thing.

Its only an explantation because only an antisemite would hold Jews responsible for anything that happens in Israel. The explanation is hatred of Jews.

GoldebWeasel · Yesterday 07:36

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:32

The Genocide of the Palestinians is triggering the attacks on Jewish people. It’s an explanation, not a justification.

Yes, there was increasing hostility to Jewish people before the latest exterminatory war on Gaza, but the genocide has been going on for many decades - it’s not a new thing.

There is no genocide.

dollywobbles · Yesterday 07:39

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Just to finish this statement off: “and some people aren’t able to distinguish between Jewish people in the UK and the Israeli government. Or rather, some people are glad of the opportunity to be openly antisemitic towards people who have absolutely nothing to with decisions made by the government in another country.”

dairydebris · Yesterday 07:40

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:32

The Genocide of the Palestinians is triggering the attacks on Jewish people. It’s an explanation, not a justification.

Yes, there was increasing hostility to Jewish people before the latest exterminatory war on Gaza, but the genocide has been going on for many decades - it’s not a new thing.

And here we have it.

Can you even hear yourself?

Utterly depressing.

SharonEllis · Yesterday 07:40

tulippetals · Yesterday 07:29

They aren’t. There are a few nutters who are attacking them.

Nonsense. Every Jewish organisation has had security for decades, and every Jewish organisation is ramping up security because of increased, extensive threat. Visibly jewish people are not safe in public because of harassment and there is well documented antisemitism across our universities, the NHS and other organisations.

researchers3 · Yesterday 07:41

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It started before that.

The government is attacking gaza. Jewish people around the world are not.

People aren't targeting random Americans for Trump's antics.

corblimeygvnr · Yesterday 07:43

Stnam · Yesterday 04:20

I am in my late forties and never really came across antisemitism in the UK and thought it was very much a thing of the past. It was when Corbyn was labour leader, that lots seem to come out of the woodwork. I remember saying to my mother how surprised I was and how I was probably rather naive about it. I thought it was mostly older left wing men but it has become more widespread now.

You weren't alive then in the 1970s when there was letter bombing ?

SpryCat · Yesterday 07:48

It’s atrocious and needs to be stopped, we all deserve to be safe on our streets! The government is only concerned with Islamophobia but any other racist attacks are swept under the carpet. We all have the right to feel safe on our streets and any extremists or racism needs to be stamped out!

HoraceCope · Yesterday 07:49

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Whatifitallgoesright · Yesterday 07:53

Villanousvillans · Yesterday 03:45

Yes and that’s exactly why I don’t understand why they are being targeted.

Because there is a religion that calls for their extermination and the their population in the UK is increasing and they are bringing that cultural mindset with them. Islamic terrorism has the highest risk in the UK as Prevent stats show. Obviously this isn't just a UK problem.

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:54

When people see kids getting blown apart en masse, or just being slowly starved to death they get very, very angry. A few nutcases will try to find a target for retribution, they can’t access Benjamin Netanyahu because he is in Israel and surrounded by security, but they can target a British Jewish person who is just going about his daily life. It’s horrifying but not surprising. It’s certainly not an inexplicable mystery.

Mi5, the police and the courts need to come down hard on these people.

Ohjailer · Yesterday 07:55

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:32

The Genocide of the Palestinians is triggering the attacks on Jewish people. It’s an explanation, not a justification.

Yes, there was increasing hostility to Jewish people before the latest exterminatory war on Gaza, but the genocide has been going on for many decades - it’s not a new thing.

The libel that Israel is committing a genocide is creating the justification for murdering Jews.

Everyone who has repeated this blatant and falsifiable lie has complicity for creating the culture that is leading to the murder of Jews.

Can you name an urban war fought in an equally dense population where there is a lower civilian to combatant death rate? And that’s not even factoring in the fact Hamas built a city of underground tunnels for its fighters but not bomb shelters for its citizens, and then refused to let its civilians in them. The death toll would have been so much lower if Hamas had made any attempt at all to save lives of its civilians. But anyway, can you name such an urban war? Because that’s the comparator you need.

the fact is, Israel has set a gold standard in how to reduce civilian deaths in urban warfare.

hazelnutvanillalatte · Yesterday 07:56

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:32

The Genocide of the Palestinians is triggering the attacks on Jewish people. It’s an explanation, not a justification.

Yes, there was increasing hostility to Jewish people before the latest exterminatory war on Gaza, but the genocide has been going on for many decades - it’s not a new thing.

The war (factually not a genocide) started due to hostility toward Jewish people, if you recall...it started due to the deadliest terrorist attack in Israel's history, where Hamas and Palestinian civilians kidnapped, assaulted and murdered people at a festival for peace, and in their homes. They filmed these atrocities and uploaded them onto their victims' social media accounts to cause maximum pain for their friends and families. They brought dead and wounded victims into Gaza where civilians cheered and spat on them. Hamas then continued to attack, promising to 'continue the attacks until Israel is annihilated.' Israel responded with more moderation than any other country would be expected to - but it's convenient to attack a country and use its self-defence as an excuse to commit further violence and demonise the Jewish people.

And the reason Hamas committed this attack is because Israel is the Jewish state. Not once have they mentioned any practical or logistical protest - their terrorism is not due to the current government, or anything that apologists hide behind. Their written mandate is to destroy Israel and the Jewish people. That's the reason Israel is targeted, and also Jewish people.

tempname1234 · Yesterday 08:00

Anti semitism has always been in the UK. Right now people are angry and upset about what is happening in Gaza and consider all Jews to be responsible.

of course it is common sense, rational thinkers who know this is not the case so it is these people who lack these qualities, perhaps suffer mental illness or radicalisation that want to strike out in anger against innocent people.

Whatifitallgoesright · Yesterday 08:00

This is by an author and political commentator called Dan Burmawi which is a very interesting explanation of our times. Some may find it uncomfortable reading;

"Let me tell you why a Muslim would stab a random Jewish person on the streets of London.
I was raised Muslim, and I know exactly why this happens. It’s not a reaction to the war in Gaza. It’s not oppression. It’s not radicalization. It’s the logical outcome of Islam itself.
It doesn’t matter if you’re a Muslim or not, we as human beings carry guilt deep inside us. We know we are not good enough, and we spend our life trying to redeem ourself through good deeds, thinking it will make the suffocating guilt go away.
Christianity for example offers a way out of guilt, a solution not based on your works but on Christ’s.
Salvation isn’t earned, it’s given. You accept that you can’t redeem yourself, because Christ already did everything on your behalf. That means you’re free. Free to live, free to build, free to serve, free to love.
And when a Christian feels lost, broken, and in need of forgiveness, they can go to church, talk to a pastor or priest, and leave knowing they are forgiven.
Islam, on the other hand, doesn’t offer redemption, it weaponizes guilt.
Instead of providing salvation, Allah exposes you, holds your sins over your head, and threatens you with hellfire and torture in the grave.
The Quran isn’t a book of peace, it’s a book of threats. It bullies Muslims into obedience through fear, humiliation, and punishment.
So what happens when a Muslim seeks redemption? They try to be better Muslims.
They pray, fast, give to charity, go on Hajj, do everything Allah commands. But it never works. I know it. I did it.
And no matter how much you pray, no matter how much you try, the guilt never goes away. Because deep down, every Muslim knows it’s not enough. Allah always demands more.
Allah loves those who die fighting against the infidels. That’s not an opinion, it’s in the Quran, in Hadith, in every lesson taught to children.
This is why Muslims, even the so-called "moderates," always hesitate to condemn terrorism. Because they know jihad is required by Allah. They might not be willing to commit it themselves, but they can't say it’s wrong.
So when a Muslim fails to reach peace through religious rituals, they have two choices:
Give up, stop being devout, and learn to live with the guilt, or commit to jihad, because that’s the only way to be true to yourself.
The Quran spells it out clearly: “Kill those who do not worship Allah or obey the Prophet” (9:29).
So when a Muslim embraces this identity fully, killing infidels isn’t just justified, it’s joyful. It’s an act of:
Saving yourself, obeying Allah, securing your eternity, finally escaping the crushing weight of guilt
This is why a Muslim can stab a random jewish person on the streets and feel nothing but satisfaction.
Because for the first time in his life, he finally believes he has done something worthy of redemption."

  • Dan Burmawi
dairydebris · Yesterday 08:00

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:54

When people see kids getting blown apart en masse, or just being slowly starved to death they get very, very angry. A few nutcases will try to find a target for retribution, they can’t access Benjamin Netanyahu because he is in Israel and surrounded by security, but they can target a British Jewish person who is just going about his daily life. It’s horrifying but not surprising. It’s certainly not an inexplicable mystery.

Mi5, the police and the courts need to come down hard on these people.

But why do those people only care about the children getting blown apart by Israel's wars and not any other conflict anywhere else in the world? Why the excessive focus? Why care so much more about the 'crimes' of the IDF rather than the other bloodshed elsewhere of which there is plenty?

OpheliaWasntMad · Yesterday 08:01

DBSFstupid · Yesterday 01:06

Stop baiting.

?? Don’t be silly.
If there is a reason for an increase in antisemitism it is not “baiting “ to ask for a clear and unambiguous answer.

CurlewKate · Yesterday 08:01

I’m not anti semitic-at least I hope I’m not. However, I am horrified by the actions of the IDF in Gaza. I don’t know how to talk about that without being thought anti semitic. So I now just don’t talk about it. Which means I am tacitly supporting a regime I find abhorrent. Is there a way round this?.

SharonEllis · Yesterday 08:03

CarbonArtist · Yesterday 07:54

When people see kids getting blown apart en masse, or just being slowly starved to death they get very, very angry. A few nutcases will try to find a target for retribution, they can’t access Benjamin Netanyahu because he is in Israel and surrounded by security, but they can target a British Jewish person who is just going about his daily life. It’s horrifying but not surprising. It’s certainly not an inexplicable mystery.

Mi5, the police and the courts need to come down hard on these people.

This is spectacularly disingenuous. People didnt apparently get particularly angry about Jewish children dying on 7 October or children dying in places like Yemen or elsewhere. The relentless demonisation of Israel is mainstream and is the background that facilitates the people that attack Jews and those that stand back and make excuses.

whymadam · Yesterday 08:07

DuchessDandelion · Yesterday 00:57

Except it isn't, because there were an increasing number of attacks on synagogues before the October attacks.

Except it is, because if you look back at the history, Israel has been bombing XYZ for decades.

NoisyHiker · Yesterday 08:08

The answer is the radical left, and radical islam. All criticism can be silenced as hate, extremists hiding behind moderate shields and stretching what it is acceptable to say and do to those they disagree with.

Strange bedfellows I grant you, but an effective pairing, at least until radical islam gains enough power.

The past is the best predictor of the future, and this is a pattern that has happened in other countries.