Jailed Dubai teenager killed in crash

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Have people seen the horrible news?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15161103/Marcus-Fakana-dies-teenager-jailed-Dubai-sex-17-girl-killed-car-crash.html

The boy jailed for having sex with a 17 yo girl in Dubai has been killed in a car crash whilst being pursued by police (he was a passenger).

To think if he'd probably still be alive today if he hadn't been granted the royal pardon.

He was in prison for 7 months not several years!

His parents knew this, and did nothing to stop it. They failed to protect him.

Can parents of an 18 year-old boy know the intimate details of their son's sex life?

Are you with your Black sons 24/7?

So very sad. Had his whole life in front of him. Love to all his family and friends.

They were on the holiday, they knew the girl was lying about meeting up with the boy. I said it on a post about it at the time but if I have to LOCK my son into the hotel room
to stop this and protect him, I would.

Likewise, I believe I have done a good enough job with my black sons to ensure they will not be driving around late at night with people who wouldn’t stop for police. That they would fully understand the dangers of being stopped by the Met police as a young black male. Just like my MIL did with her sons. It’s possible.

Likewise, I believe I have done a good enough job with my black sons to ensure they will not be driving around late at night with people who wouldn’t stop for police.

Well I sincerely hope that you're beliefs for your sons' future behaviour comes to fruition - but just know that when they're 18 you will have very little influence as to what they get up to, particularly with their sex lives!

Most parents do their best... and hope for the best.

As I said, there are nuances here you wouldn’t understand if you are privileged enough to be raising white children. It’s not the same for those of us who are not.

That's great. You do realise that sometimes shit happens to your children in spite of you being a good parent?

Things could have been a lot different if she hadn't reported him to the police for a start.
It's not her fault he's dead, but it is her fault she pulled his mothers life apart by having him sent to prison. I would never ever forgive someone for doing that to my child.

I didn't raise white children - and there are no nuances in this case.

This young man had sex with a willing girl whose mother took exception to the situation, for whatever reason.

His parents are not at fault for the relationship, nor the manner of his death.

You really shouldn't be so smug as to your parenting skills - there is only so much you can do.

Did you raise black children?

Because if you did you would completely understand why as a parent you would need to do everything in your power to prevent your son having sex on holiday (whether it’s consensual or not) with an Asian girl who is openly concealing the fact from her parents.

You would understand the ramifications should they become aware of this and you would be very well schooled on the extra layer of prejudice and racism that would only fuel that fire.

And I’m not smug. I’m just not ignorant enough to not know how much extra effort it takes parenting young black boys.

Of course but for the reasons I’ve explained, they failed to protect their son. Especially in the first instance. There are lessons to be learnt for others.

Can you link to any information that backs up your "version" of events?

I’m really stunned that people are unable to separate the two incidents.

Whether this boy did or didn’t go to prison at the time, would not have changed the outcome of the crash some months later.

The only difference being is that this is now a national level story, as opposed to a local one as a result of what happened with the girl. If this happened to someone unknown to the public it wouldn’t make front pages.

The girls mum can be blamed for making the call and putting a boy in a Middle Eastern prison for 7 months. You could kind of argue that the boys family won’t be able to grieve in peace as the story is so big everyone and their dog is adding their two pence in because of it. But to say if she didn’t do that the boy’s mother would have had longer with her son, she’s taken that time away from his mother - stop it.

Stop. What is the matter with you?

A young man has lost his life in utterly tragic circumstances.

RIP Marcus. His poor parents.

Hmm. This while story doesn't sit well with me. Why was he being chased?

I suspect the poster you’re replying to isn’t a Black woman. Her complete lack of empathy for what Marcus’s parents are going through and the difficulties they would had protecting him from everything is sus.

Who can easily just lock up a 17 year old boy on holiday in a hotel? Is that even legal? And how would they have known before the first time he had sex with her that was what he was going to go do?

My guess is she is a non-Black woman raising mixed race or Black kids and is being so self righteous because she thinks she’s got a handle on everything.

Because the laws of the UAE apply, and he broke the law, it's irrelevant if it was legal in the UK.

The last year of his life was awful for him and his family.

Yes you are more than likely right. So easy to judge other people’s parenting decision. But a young man has been taken away from his family. I find the whole story incredibly sad and tragic.

Those finding it difficult to understand why the car was stopped need to do some research into Tottenham as an area and police racism. Black boys are far more likely to be stopped as part of what used to be known as stop and search.

Exactly. That’s why you teach them to mind the company you keep and you definitely do not fail to stop! The only plausible reason not to stop is because they had something to hide. When you know what these areas are like, when you know what the police are capable of, you understand how important it is for your kids to avoid trouble.

My point is - lessons need to be learnt. As parents, we should always look for the lesson.

Of course it’s sad that he’s lost his life unneccesarily like so many others. I still can’t help but feel that more could have been done to steer him on the right path.

So he committed a crime in another country and got a "get out of jail free" card.
Then for whatever reason he's been mixing with someone who the policed had to chase, rather than being pulled over, and he died.
Is that what's happened?

Marcus wasn’t driving. He was a passenger.

With the best will in the world we can only guide our children and hope they make the right choices. We don’t know the circumstances and really shouldn’t speculate.

Do you have older teens? I do. Whilst I know some of their friends I don’t know all of them. Like most I am trying my best and see myself as a fairly involved parent but it’s difficult. Kids lie. It happens. The way of the world whatever colour they are.

You are coming across as incredibly self righteous and that your kids would never do anything wrong. Please don’t be that person.

No.

The driver maybe - could be as simple as the driver being over the limit.

No mention of alcohol:
https://news.sky.com/story/british-teenager-dies-in-car-crash-three-months-after-being-released-from-dubai-jail-13443997

Mohamed Huseen, of Argyle Road, Tottenham, has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving, driving without insurance, driving without a licence and failing to stop.