Epping Migrant Hotel. Proof that protest does work?

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The high court ruled that illegal migrants must be moved from the Bell Hotel in Epping as it's been deemed unsafe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3e221qgeeo

Other councils are now intending to follow suit.

A victory for those protesters, and proof that taking to the street can be effective.

I feel sorry for the staff that have to work there, and it’s not just hotel staff, you’ve got health care and social care staff going in.

Surely they will just be housed elsewhere locally

So where do they all go now?

But where are they all going to be moved to, With a massive shortage of housing already? Whilst it may be cheaper to move them to flats, housing, it doesn’t really solve the problem just moves it elsewhere.

This is only a temporary reprieve at the moment.

I feel sorry for the original staff there, who were all sacked and in came Serco staff.
I feel sorry for the young girls who felt and feel unsafe in the local area.
I feel sorry for the parents of those young girls.

With schools opening up soon this situation could have boiled over into chaos.

The whole thing was disgraceful and I am very happy for those locals on their win.
Well done to Epping council.

Is it the violent protests that is making it unsafe, rather than the migrants per se?

Are we reading the same article? This is about asylum seekers, not illegal immigrants. I just hope that if ever I need to seek asylum, I’m given a better welcome than those poor sods!

I wonder if those protesters get as worked up about non-brown skinned men abusing and sexually assaulting white girls? My money is on ‘absolutely NOT’.

I live close by. There are England and GB flags all the way along the high street, and have been for a couple of weeks. It's a very long road, which I drive along most days. It's actually quite intimidating. I know they're not celebrating anything. I know what the message is: this is our country, you need to leave if you're not from here. I'm not white, my kids aren't white. Their dad is an 'immigrant'. I feel a lot less safe. Yes, it's a victory for a certain group but not one that makes me feel safer.

Two things: the government needs to hasten the process for these people and determine their status, also finding more appropriate accommodation in the meantime. 400 hotels are currently being used, but where should they be housed?
I'm just watching Dan Jarvis discussing it now on the BBC news. He says they need to stop them getting to the beaches of Northern France, and that's virtually impossible at the moment.

I think that most people are utterly horrified by anyone abusing and sexually assaulting young girls.

Good points.

Your wording of your first sentence OP seems to be a deliberate rewording of the phrase asylum seekers used in the article you link. Be good if you edited it - but you won't, I suspect.

I , too, wonder where these people will now go. I shouldn't imagine Epping Council cares but it's certainly a logistical issue of rather whopping complexity.

That's not correct - it's 210 hotels.

I wonder why Dan Jarvis said 400?
I believe he added that they were brining it down to 200. Perhaps he was referring to the situation when they inherited it.

The government are still going to have a legal duty to house the asylum seekers somewhere - they aren't going to just disappear and we aren't suddenly going to be absolved of our legal obligations. And the Home Office won't be able to clear the backlog overnight even if they do find a way of speeding up the processing times. So where are they going to house people, I wonder? We're already very short of social housing.

The protesters clearly think that this is a victory for them right now, but we don't yet know what the unintended consequences might be. They may find that they don't like them.

Time will tell.

So where are they meant to go? Last
week I was reading reports where they were being housed in HMOs in various cities and people were protesting about that as well. I know they need to process the claims more efficiently but that isn't happening and they keep arriving.

That's exactly it, @MrsBennetsPoorNerves . Speed up the process and find appropriate accommodation. Neither of which is happening at the moment.

The government needs to build hostels for the migrants in areas/ streets where the median income is solidly six figures.

And there has to be discussion as to the continued viability of groups of men with nothing to do with no ties to a place being foisted upon populations without consultation.

Men with nothing to do , grouped together are too often a magnet for shithousery. Homegrown or not.

But the dumping of failed men via migrant, drug or drunkard hostels in areas where the majority live humbly has to stop.

Too often, the same people finger pointed at as intolerant are the same type who for the last eighty years have been at the coalface of social experiment in this country.

And are usually the same class of people who practice " multiculturalism" outside of " enjoying the food" the most due to socio economic proximity which they have little immediate resource to manoeuvre their way out of if they wanted to.

Both, if news reports are accurate.

Because it's easy to say that and not so easy to do it. As successive governments have found.

We'll see what happens, but we may end up with a solutions that people like even less than what we have at present.

Yes, I assume so .

But it has been almost halved from its peak when it was 400.

Now your asking...

Gosh mumsnet went very right wing didn’t it

These are points that I had not considered and I thank you for expanding my understanding.