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Epping Migrant Hotel. Proof that protest does work?

153 replies

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 20/08/2025 07:25

The high court ruled that illegal migrants must be moved from the Bell Hotel in Epping as it's been deemed unsafe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3e221qgeeo

Other councils are now intending to follow suit.

A victory for those protesters, and proof that taking to the street can be effective.

A group of police in high-vis vests stand outside a sign for The Bell Hotel in Epping.

Councils consider legal action over asylum hotels

Nigel Farage says Reform UK-controlled councils will do everything in their power to close the hotels.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3e221qgeeo

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Cloudymonday · 22/08/2025 10:43

Alwo isn't this particular hotel in queation one which housed asylum seeking families, mainly children and all hell broke lose only when HO moved them out to house single men?

1dayatatime · 22/08/2025 11:08

Cloudymonday · 22/08/2025 10:24

I think one of the differences was that the Ukrainian scheme was supposed to be short temporary measure. No one expected it to be this long. They also all had their paperwork afaik so it probably felt safer to people. Documented women and children(and some men who were excused of military service).
Then it dragged on and even the neighbourhooring countries' people started losing patience tbh.

I get your point on the original intentions of the Ukrainian scheme. But equally "renting a room" in your home to an asylum seeker would arguably also be a temporary measure until their asylum case is settled.

There are many people in the UK that welcome refugees and strongly believe and support that under international law asylum seekers have a right to be able to claim asylum in the UK.

The Government is doing its best to provide accommodation for asylum seekers but it can't just be the Government's job- ordinary people can help as well and show that they truly believe that refugees are welcome in the UK by providing shelter in their own homes.

It worked to an extent for the Ukrainian refugees so what's different about asylum seekers from say Somalia or Iraq or Iran?

1dayatatime · 22/08/2025 11:26

Alexandra2001 · 22/08/2025 10:42

We would then lose track of who is here and where, your idea would make that even worse.

The Ukrainian scheme allowed them to work legally, then moving into rented accommodation.

Are you proposing to allow asylum seekers to work? creating yet another pull factor?

Actually given that the home owners would be in receipt of a spare room rental payments then there would be the same tracking of who is here and where.

I agree with you that it wouldn't be a good idea to allow asylum seekers to legally work whilst waiting for their cases to be heard (as this would simply add another draw incentive to come to the UK).

However asylum seekers could be temporarily housed (in return for rental payments) in people's homes until their asylum applications are decided.

i just don't see what is the difference between the Ukrainian scheme and housing asylum seekers the same way. The only difference I can see is their skin colour and country of origin which should absolutely be irrelevant.

Alexandra2001 · 22/08/2025 15:50

1dayatatime · 22/08/2025 11:26

Actually given that the home owners would be in receipt of a spare room rental payments then there would be the same tracking of who is here and where.

I agree with you that it wouldn't be a good idea to allow asylum seekers to legally work whilst waiting for their cases to be heard (as this would simply add another draw incentive to come to the UK).

However asylum seekers could be temporarily housed (in return for rental payments) in people's homes until their asylum applications are decided.

i just don't see what is the difference between the Ukrainian scheme and housing asylum seekers the same way. The only difference I can see is their skin colour and country of origin which should absolutely be irrelevant.

Whilst skin colour shouldn't matter, we all know it does as does their sex.

Also Ukrainians went through screening processes before coming here, which gave confidence to hosts & as they could work, most did, they soon integrated into the community.

None of which applies to a x channel migrant.

What happens if he migrant is refused? and no where to deport too? or is a wanted crim in his home country?

Your scheme would only work with migrants who have applied through official routes.

1dayatatime · 22/08/2025 16:43

Alexandra2001 · 22/08/2025 15:50

Whilst skin colour shouldn't matter, we all know it does as does their sex.

Also Ukrainians went through screening processes before coming here, which gave confidence to hosts & as they could work, most did, they soon integrated into the community.

None of which applies to a x channel migrant.

What happens if he migrant is refused? and no where to deport too? or is a wanted crim in his home country?

Your scheme would only work with migrants who have applied through official routes.

Whilst what is unfortunately right, there is nothing to stop introducing a voluntary scheme. And sure whilst there will be many on the far right that wouldn't accept an asylum seeker in their homes worked, there will equally be others in society that would.

Southern25 · 22/08/2025 20:01

I don’t think these protests are going to stop, a small hotel where I used to live is on social media with large amounts of police and protesters. The government really need to act

Southern25 · 22/08/2025 20:04

I know it was controversial and even Farage opposed it, but the threat of Rwanda would have possibly stopped the gangs with their horrendous trade. People would have been less likely to make the crossing and the smuggling business would have been affected.

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 20:10

Southern25 · 22/08/2025 20:04

I know it was controversial and even Farage opposed it, but the threat of Rwanda would have possibly stopped the gangs with their horrendous trade. People would have been less likely to make the crossing and the smuggling business would have been affected.

I don’t think the prospect of a maximum of 1000 people being sent to Rwanda would have been much of a deterrent somehow. Even f it hadn’t been illegal.

Southern25 · 22/08/2025 20:35

I heard a Labour MP saying on GB News how we should put migrants in immigration centres. But how can we?

An immigration centre can only hold so many - let’s say 1000 for example. It takes years to build an immigration centre. We can’t even build enough prisons for our criminals. Planning permission takes ages , sometimes years for a start , before they even build a prison.

Thousands are arriving. They can’t all be put into immigration centres, it’s impossible.

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 20:38

Which Labour MP was that? If there are too many asylum seekers for immigration centres to work as a deterrent, what makes you think Rwanda would have done?

EssexMan55 · 23/08/2025 07:26

Cyclebabble · 20/08/2025 08:47

I am ethnically Indian. I and many members of my family are starting to feel a little bit afraid. Slowly but surely we seem to be creating an environment where there is real hostility to anyone who is not white and this is getting worse. We are experiencing more racist abuse and the narrative seems to suggest that anyone non-white is somehow a drain on society. Most of my family work in the NHS as either Doctors or Nurses. They work really hard and do lots of community work. This does not however seem to be enough which feels really sad.

I am white, but my wife isn’t and I feel the same. These racists are getting bolder and bolder. A much harder line needs to be taken with them by the government. The more they give the more racists will demand.

Cloudymonday · 23/08/2025 08:49

1dayatatime · 22/08/2025 16:43

Whilst what is unfortunately right, there is nothing to stop introducing a voluntary scheme. And sure whilst there will be many on the far right that wouldn't accept an asylum seeker in their homes worked, there will equally be others in society that would.

https://www.roomforrefugees.com/

You could get in touch with these and host?

LupaMoonhowl · 23/08/2025 09:05

EssexMan55 · 23/08/2025 07:26

I am white, but my wife isn’t and I feel the same. These racists are getting bolder and bolder. A much harder line needs to be taken with them by the government. The more they give the more racists will demand.

Calling the distress of those parents ‘racism’ is lazy and uninformed.
So only white people care about the welfare of their children??
Far more racist to assume that anyone in this country who is not white welcomes uncontrolled immigration by dangerous people. I know many non-white people (live in a very diverse area racially) who are devastated by the way the country they choose and have wholeheartedly adopted has let this happen.

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2025 09:12

Assuming those people are distressed parents is lazy and uninformed. Most, if not all, of those protests are far right men whose bigotry has been emboldened by Farage and his ilk. We’re not talking about peaceful protests by families here.

1dayatatime · 23/08/2025 09:16

Thank you - I didn't know this organisation existed.

Cloudymonday · 23/08/2025 09:33

1dayatatime · 23/08/2025 09:16

Thank you - I didn't know this organisation existed.

Happy to help. Happy housesharing!

prh47bridge · 29/08/2025 15:17

I am not surprised to see that the Court of Appeal has overturned the injunction. Not allowing the Home Secretary to intervene looked like a clear mistake by the judge, as did failing to consider the effect of his judgement in incentivising protests.

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 29/08/2025 17:15

I'm a bit worried that it's going to go further than just protesting now.

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GentleSheep · 29/08/2025 17:54

This news isn't good because protests will now increase.

GentleSheep · 29/08/2025 18:23

Here we go:

Shamragh · 29/08/2025 18:38

I am glad there getting to stay not all of them are rapists etc there are a lot of decent people amongst them and do not deserve to be persecuted

Shamragh · 29/08/2025 18:39

Good on them for getting to stay leave them be and let them live there life

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 29/08/2025 18:51

GentleSheep · 29/08/2025 18:23

Here we go:

I believe Mayhar is reporting from Cheshunt

There are no official protests in Epping today.

BIossomtoes · 29/08/2025 18:55

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 29/08/2025 18:51

I believe Mayhar is reporting from Cheshunt

There are no official protests in Epping today.

Funny that!

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 29/08/2025 19:03

Okay, so Mayhar and Jack are bringing the LOLs in the commentary 😂😂

But they have just said they're planning to drive to Epping after. I guess it's not too far, but I don't know what the road closes are.

Is the Cheshunt protest planned? It must be because it's very well organised by the police and the usual two groups are there.