Epping Migrant Hotel. Proof that protest does work?

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The high court ruled that illegal migrants must be moved from the Bell Hotel in Epping as it's been deemed unsafe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3e221qgeeo

Other councils are now intending to follow suit.

A victory for those protesters, and proof that taking to the street can be effective.

Tory and Lab both sold off council housing, whilst building almost no new stock, hence british citizens living in temp housing, been going on for many years.

Yes it is unfair, but unless you want migrants in tent cities in parks etc... where would you put them?

The costs to build prison camps plus their locations would be huge & take years... appeals etc etc.

Seriously? So what they got a British Passport by applying for citizenship. They’re not from here, we are not looking after our own. You think it’s good that London has hardly any natives left? How is this positive?

When people start talking about "natives", it's a pretty good indicator of the type of far right content that they have been consuming. It tells us all we need to know about where you're coming from.

Natives? How would you define a London "native"?

Our population has increased by millions and millions, through immigration! There wasn’t a shortage in council properties before free movement into the UK around 2004 now it’s impossible for those who need one. Besides the council properties were sold an owner occupied stayed in it. We have far too many poor people moving here and far too many rich people leaving. Who’s going to pay for this? This is unsustainable anyway you look at it. Are you happy to pay huge taxes to import the poor?

Someone with generational roots in the city, like anywhere else. What would you describe as a native of Spain, Pakistan, china? Certainly not someone who rocked up to the housing office a fortnight ago.

Who are? I was saying that most migrants are legal and come in on visas as skilled workers. Are you saying most migrants are uneducated?

So, anyone who was born in London is a "native" of London. Seems quite a reasonable definition. Thanks for replying.

Do you think social landlords should pursue actively racist policies by saying, when they allocate social housing:

1. What colour is your skin, and were you born in this country?

I think I’m beginning to see what my great, great grandparents faced as immigrants. It’s really ugly and quite honestly I feel ashamed when I see some of the ill informed prejudice here.

Absolutely not. Where have you got that idea from? You’re bringing up colour, I couldn’t give a stuff.

There wasn’t a shortage in council properties before free movement into the UK around 2004

In 2003 1,271,000 households were on the waiting list for local authority housing. I'd call that a shortage.

The shortage of social housing goes back a long way.

It began when Thatcher bribed social housing tenants to vote Tory and has continued ever since. A lot of those former council houses are now owned by private landlords - the irony.

Quite.

Indeed. And when we had free movement into the country from Europe a lot of people moved back and forth between countries and did not necessarily permanently settle. And it was much easier for British citizens to actually leave as well and go and work and study elsewhere! Now it's much harder for us to leave our own country.

I did try to warn the turkeys voting for Christmas in 2016 that the Conservatives were planning for mass migration from the Indian sub-continent and that Brexit would deliver nothing like "taking back our borders". How has that gone for you, Nigel Farage?

The people that come here legally from 2021 tend to stay and also bring families. I was never bothered about immigration when we were in the EU as people were clearly coming and going. But the population increases since 2021 are really exponential - due to legal not illegal migration, and due to previous government policies which this government, and have made even me concerned.

In terms of asylum seekers in hotels, there are currently 32,000. About a million people came to the country legally just in 2021, and it has been in the hundreds of thousands since.

I can only think the Tories were actually a) totally incompetent b) wanted lots of cheap workers for their mates running big businesses, and Europeans were getting too expensive, or a horrifying mixture of both.

If Reform came into power now, which is, I assume, what many people on this thread want, they will be dealing with the same numbers same money, same issues, and have no experience of government or even being MPs. Many of them running local council budgets don't even have experience of life, as they are kids. How do you think it will go?

It would be madness to leave the ECHR one should never give up human rights. But I expect you think I'm leaving Nigel will look after you.

Better than 4 star accomodation, a free phone, free internet, free clothes, £40 a week, free dental, free healthcare, free driving lessons and three square meals a day?

Not sure many countries would offer that.

I am so saddened by this thread. I have been to many countries and always been given a warm welcome. How sad that these people are experiencing such hatred.
You do realise you just happened to be born in a country where there is no war and where your family are safe don’t you. You could have just as easily been born anywhere in the world. Lucky you. What would you do if you weren’t so lucky?

I find the stuff people are being fed on social media scary. I work with the people in the hotels. Believe me that have not had an easy time and they are not having an easy time.
what if it was someone in your family?

so sad the lack of humanity

I bet the same people think it was right to allow refugees in world war 2, oh but they weren’t brown

Thus is all made up nonsense. It’s £40 a week OR three meals a day. Who do you seriously think is getting driving lessons, phones or clothes?

Sadly, Jewish refugees were not allowed in, they had to be sponsored, like Ernst Chain, the biologist, or the Kindertransport children. Paid for not by the taxpayers, but by Jewish charities. There was no refugee system in place, as we understand it.

Totally agree.
A lot of the pro mass migration lefties are living in leafy suburbs without such hotels.

I think these ILLEGAL migrants should be dumped in these communities who want them so much.

No, but local connection to an area should count. When we moved in the 1970s, as a young family a few hundred miles (from a council flat), we couldn’t even join the housing list in the new area. Private renting was our only option.

Skin colour should have no bearing, nor ethnicity. But being a UK citizen for a reasonable length of time should mean something.

Yes, and the majority of asylum seekers are allowed to stay because they are at risk if they return home. Calling them all illegal immigrants is incorrect and unfair.

Are the people there dangerous? Or just assumed to be so, based on background? Obvs there is some accuracy sadly to judging based on background, given that some cultures (too many) have little respect for women.

Presumably you weren't migrating tho, just coming to stay. Our system is v stretched. And some cultures respect women less and are more likely to bring dangerous people (obvs not all, but more likely)

I do agree somewhat, but even w refugees there are only so many we can help, sadly.