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Trump v Musk; popcorn moment!

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fixingmylife · 05/06/2025 20:47

Musk has just tweeted that Trump is on the Espstein list. Shock horror, not! :-) This is going to roll and roll. USA elected children to run the country and to be the leader of the Western World! Popcorn at the ready......

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knitnerd90 · 06/06/2025 11:18

Musk will have no luck setting up another party. He can waste his money just like Ross Perot. When you combine first past the post and direct presidential elections, third parties are inevitable spoilers.

aside from money, Musk doesn’t have charisma. I wouldn’t call what Trump has charisma, but he grips people. Musk doesn’t.

Oneandahalfonagoodday · 06/06/2025 12:08

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 05/06/2025 23:46

I have been saying since Trump got in that I wouldn't be at all surprised if he accidentally fell out a hotel window in a very Russian manner or suffered some other health event. I mean it seems far fetched but a lot of very unlikely things have happened in the last few months.

I bet he's going to be very nervous about his next medical and the jelly that gets put on that rubber glove for his prostate examination! Wouldn't that be a deliciously deviant way to dispatch him?! 🤣

chaosmaker · 06/06/2025 12:38

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/06/2025 23:54

God I miss the laughing emoji.

Why did it go?

Thanks to the person who posted about the coming storm.... really interesting podcast on BBC Sounds by the same name.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/06/2025 12:41

chaosmaker · 06/06/2025 12:38

Why did it go?

Thanks to the person who posted about the coming storm.... really interesting podcast on BBC Sounds by the same name.

Because some posters were using it sarcastically and some people objected to that.

I've had the laughing emoji on some of my posts from people who were clearly wanting to mock rather than expressing an appreciation for my sense of humour. Honestly, it didn't bother me in the slightest. I don't need everyone to agree with me.

Isthisreasonable · 06/06/2025 13:04

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 05/06/2025 23:46

I have been saying since Trump got in that I wouldn't be at all surprised if he accidentally fell out a hotel window in a very Russian manner or suffered some other health event. I mean it seems far fetched but a lot of very unlikely things have happened in the last few months.

Perhaps he'll fall off his yacht in the style of Robert Maxwell (father of Ghislaine). They are/were very similar individuals.

romatheroamer · 06/06/2025 14:12

Trump and Musk reminds me of the Jurassic Park series of films. The monsters are scary and threatening but near the end they turn on each other, enabling the humans to escape. The same thing's happening with Reform with smaller monsters.

AInightingale · 06/06/2025 16:19

They should just have a duel, like VP Burr and his treasury secretary in the 18th C. A lot cleaner and quicker than trading insults on Twitter.

RedToothBrush · 06/06/2025 16:29

AInightingale · 06/06/2025 16:19

They should just have a duel, like VP Burr and his treasury secretary in the 18th C. A lot cleaner and quicker than trading insults on Twitter.

Na just lock em in a room with water, food and handbags and see who is still alive three days later.

My money is on the one who can feed himself without a butler.

llizzie · 06/06/2025 16:40

businessflop25 · 06/06/2025 00:16

If it were proved that there was election interference would that automatically mean a rerun of the election?

Not sure about America. Have to google that one!

Vance was appointed. He can stand in when Trump is indisposed,but if the American Constitution allows Vance to take over when an election is declared invalid, I would want to know why, because that seems a big nono to me.

llizzie · 06/06/2025 16:42

Isthisreasonable · 06/06/2025 13:04

Perhaps he'll fall off his yacht in the style of Robert Maxwell (father of Ghislaine). They are/were very similar individuals.

Should I be laughing so much at that? I don't care, it is funny because it is their own faults.

llizzie · 06/06/2025 16:46

I have to say that there is more fun on this thread than ever before.

Is it that if we don't laugh and joke about it, we might cry?

llizzie · 06/06/2025 16:52

JoshLymanSwagger · 06/06/2025 07:20

Meantime there are wars to be stopped with no chance of that now.

That Nobel Prize for Peace that 🍊🌮 hankers after seems to be slipping further away.

Was it ever within his grasp anyway?

llizzie · 06/06/2025 16:59

Allisgoodtoday · 06/06/2025 07:28

World leaders acting like toddlers having a tantrum: inevitable, we could all see it would happen eventually but sad to see how many are gleeful and bringing out the popcorn.

It isn't entertaining in the slightest, just appalling that this is the state of world politics today. Throw in Putin, plus a few leaders in the middle east who care little while they blast their citizens into oblivion, and China waiting in the wings and truly, the world is a dreadful place.

It all gives me such a heavy heart.

Not sure about China waiting in the wings. China is in an unenviable position. The long border between China and Russia has to be defended somehow, but because of the length and the terrain, neither one can make a move on the other, so they have to be friendly. How else can China keep out of it?

It is said that Ji is waiting to see if Putin keeps Crimea before he claws back Taiwan. The world thinks so, but President Ji is very clever. His easily recognisable face has been the representative of China for more terms than usual. He is welcomed wherever he goes. I do not think he would risk any sort of war while he is president, and just at the moment he has his people and their industry to think about, and no one else wants Taiwan.

llizzie · 06/06/2025 17:16

RedToothBrush · 06/06/2025 09:15

I think Musk may try and set up a political party too. If only to try and piss off Trump. (It's doomed to failure btw). Musk likes to work alone too much. Trump delegates to suckups. Musk likes handpicked trusted but competent staff who work themselves to death. Political parties don't really work on that basis. Certainly not if you are up against a populist.

Trump is the first American president who was a businessman. All those before him were born to it, raised to it, spent their whole lives living it: the Ivy League.

Trump was a - I suppose self taught - wealthy business man who could not get any higher than he was, so having the money, he ran for president and won.

He won because he was able to talk down the the American working - I suppose the lower echelons mostly - for him understood his childish speaking manner and the way he addressed them as employer to employee. They were familiar with that. They understood it. He went over and over some words. He used slang and filler words thinking that they were what the working man understood better than the cultured manners of previous election candidates.

It would not have worked with me, and probably all the British and European voters, because we do not primarily choose our MPs by how much money they have and how much control they have over their workforces.

The problem with Trump is that he treats other people - including heads of state in the same way.

Worse though he insults their intelligence. I listened to the press meeting in the White House with the German Chancellor. It was all about Trump, what he wanted, what he did, and constant repetition. Is he incapable of learning anything about the world leaders he invites to America? Nothing he has said so far to any of them had any meaning at all.

That is what will destroy Trump eventually. It will not be tolerated by the people of America and the world for long, because too much is at stake.

RedToothBrush · 06/06/2025 17:19

llizzie · 06/06/2025 17:16

Trump is the first American president who was a businessman. All those before him were born to it, raised to it, spent their whole lives living it: the Ivy League.

Trump was a - I suppose self taught - wealthy business man who could not get any higher than he was, so having the money, he ran for president and won.

He won because he was able to talk down the the American working - I suppose the lower echelons mostly - for him understood his childish speaking manner and the way he addressed them as employer to employee. They were familiar with that. They understood it. He went over and over some words. He used slang and filler words thinking that they were what the working man understood better than the cultured manners of previous election candidates.

It would not have worked with me, and probably all the British and European voters, because we do not primarily choose our MPs by how much money they have and how much control they have over their workforces.

The problem with Trump is that he treats other people - including heads of state in the same way.

Worse though he insults their intelligence. I listened to the press meeting in the White House with the German Chancellor. It was all about Trump, what he wanted, what he did, and constant repetition. Is he incapable of learning anything about the world leaders he invites to America? Nothing he has said so far to any of them had any meaning at all.

That is what will destroy Trump eventually. It will not be tolerated by the people of America and the world for long, because too much is at stake.

Agree largely. His biggest enemy is his own ego.

scritter · 06/06/2025 17:19

One aspect I find interesting is that Musk has relatively little to fear from Trump, business contracts/profits aside. Trump bullies/threatens/destroys anyone who crosses him, or anyone dares to disagree with him/criticises him.

Musk is a different prospect to his usual targets, and I think Trump is wondering how to land the usual blows, and indeed, whether he should.

RedToothBrush · 06/06/2025 17:23

scritter · 06/06/2025 17:19

One aspect I find interesting is that Musk has relatively little to fear from Trump, business contracts/profits aside. Trump bullies/threatens/destroys anyone who crosses him, or anyone dares to disagree with him/criticises him.

Musk is a different prospect to his usual targets, and I think Trump is wondering how to land the usual blows, and indeed, whether he should.

Trump want to be the president who gets the US back to the moon next year.

He's got a slight issue with that if he pisses off Musk.

CaveMum · 06/06/2025 17:24

Just repeating my recommendation to listen to/watch the two most recent TRIP US episodes. One recorded a few days ago and the other an emergency pod late last night.

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PerkingFaintly · 06/06/2025 17:26

Trump is the first American president who was a businessman. All those before him were born to it, raised to it, spent their whole lives living it: the Ivy League.

Eh? Not true. Jimmy Carter a famous example recently in the press as having died, even if you don't remember his term in office.

Also, the significance of Trump's language is not use of slang or short words. It's the name-calling and mocking his opponents; and telling potential voters that anything they don't like about their lives is because they're victims and he's going to rescue them. He says this explicitly.

It's negging. He talks people and America down, then tells them he's a saviour.

He taps into a victim mentality really effectively.

llizzie · 06/06/2025 17:29

RedToothBrush · 06/06/2025 17:19

Agree largely. His biggest enemy is his own ego.

He should still have a food taster and a twice weekly blood test to be sure.

llizzie · 06/06/2025 17:36

PerkingFaintly · 06/06/2025 17:26

Trump is the first American president who was a businessman. All those before him were born to it, raised to it, spent their whole lives living it: the Ivy League.

Eh? Not true. Jimmy Carter a famous example recently in the press as having died, even if you don't remember his term in office.

Also, the significance of Trump's language is not use of slang or short words. It's the name-calling and mocking his opponents; and telling potential voters that anything they don't like about their lives is because they're victims and he's going to rescue them. He says this explicitly.

It's negging. He talks people and America down, then tells them he's a saviour.

He taps into a victim mentality really effectively.

Which is what he has learned as a businessman and property developer. The upper echelons didn't speak to people like that.

It is Trump's manner of speaking to the voters that gives them the impression he understands them. He does not, but he is clever enough to convince them he is one of them and gets away with it.

I don't know a lot about Jimmy Carter except that he had a peanut company in Africa and that he fought in the Korean War,(didn't everyone?) and helped charitable institutions. I certainly would not have put him in the same league as Trump, so associated him with an Ivy League upbringing.

SwedishEdith · 06/06/2025 17:59

llizzie · 06/06/2025 17:36

Which is what he has learned as a businessman and property developer. The upper echelons didn't speak to people like that.

It is Trump's manner of speaking to the voters that gives them the impression he understands them. He does not, but he is clever enough to convince them he is one of them and gets away with it.

I don't know a lot about Jimmy Carter except that he had a peanut company in Africa and that he fought in the Korean War,(didn't everyone?) and helped charitable institutions. I certainly would not have put him in the same league as Trump, so associated him with an Ivy League upbringing.

Trump has never faught in any war. Bone spurs.

Piggywaspushed · 06/06/2025 18:00

Ronald Reagan also was not Ivy League and 'born to' be president.

LBFseBrom · 06/06/2025 18:07

I dislike Trump intensely but not fighting in any wars doesn't bother me. I haven't, neither did my late husband and that has never been held against us :-). Who actually wants to go and fight? There was no choice in WW1 & WW2, men were conscripted but there's been no conscription here since then. America had Vietnam of course and lost loads of lives because of that. Trump was old enough to have been drafted but if he managed to avoid that, good on him; many did the same, not all successfully but they tried and I don't blame them one bit.

CaveMum · 06/06/2025 18:15

LBFseBrom · 06/06/2025 18:07

I dislike Trump intensely but not fighting in any wars doesn't bother me. I haven't, neither did my late husband and that has never been held against us :-). Who actually wants to go and fight? There was no choice in WW1 & WW2, men were conscripted but there's been no conscription here since then. America had Vietnam of course and lost loads of lives because of that. Trump was old enough to have been drafted but if he managed to avoid that, good on him; many did the same, not all successfully but they tried and I don't blame them one bit.

Trump is a draft dodger - he claimed “bone spurs” as an excuse for not being able to fight. Someone pointed out elsewhere that none of Trump’s family have ever served - his grandfather dodged National service in Germany and fled to the US in 1885.