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Your preferred Sentencing - Sara Sharif's killers

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ByQuaintAzureWasp · 16/12/2024 22:41

What would your sentence be for these three?
Sentencing tomorrow.

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NewBootsWeather · 17/12/2024 13:46

Daftasabroom · 17/12/2024 13:00

Quite. The answer to people who do sick and twisted things cannot be to do even more sick and twisted things.

It wouldn't be more sick and twisted.

SnoopySantaPaws · 17/12/2024 13:46

Birdscratch · 17/12/2024 13:22

It’s not unusual for prisoners on segregation to spend 22 hours a day in their cells. Imagine that for 40 years. He tortured a child to death, he’s never going to be able to be around other prisoners.

Mores te pity

BellaTheDarkOverlord · 17/12/2024 13:46

White Bear. I would accept that option.

Wendolino · 17/12/2024 13:47

Hanged, drawn and quartered.

Donttellempike · 17/12/2024 13:48

DarkAndTwisties · 17/12/2024 13:42

No, Wayne Couzens got one didn't he?

I'm not sure what the line is where you can get a whole life term.

The reason Couzens got whole life was because he used his police role to commit the offence. He used his warrant card and without it Sarah would not have gone with him That made it an offence against the fabric of society

Marshatessa · 17/12/2024 13:49

Death penalty should be brought back

DarkAndTwisties · 17/12/2024 13:50

The reason Couzens got whole life was because he used his police role to commit the offence. He used his warrant card and without it Sarah would not have gone with him That made it an offence against the fabric of society

I'd argue that brutally torturing and murdering your child is against the fabric of society, but I take your point.

natwalesrug · 17/12/2024 13:53

thequeenoftarts · 17/12/2024 13:12

Thankfully the judge in this case did his job correctly. He handed out long sentences for them all. I am glad Sara's murder has been avenged, for her sake. ( should have never happened at all)The poor little mite, my heart breaks for her. I am so sorry little one, you were let down so badly.

Now lets start asking the questions that need to be asked from social workers, teachers, police, neighbours, the home schooling process. Any adult that turned a blind eye to her abuse needs to be punished too.

These people did not turn a blind eye!Are you suggesting they new the brutality that this poor child endured and ignored.
What a dreadful comment.
These people could only work on the knowledge they had and ultimately its a judge who is the only person who can legally remove a child from the family.
The creatures who did this, are the ones to blame!!!

SnoopySantaPaws · 17/12/2024 13:54

billionsofpresents · 17/12/2024 12:40

Why are people replying with options like ‘death sentence’ and torture and things? Do you think it makes you look good, that you are a ‘better’ person somehow because you are angrier and more self righteous and indignant than those who are against these things?

No, why would I think it makes me look good? I just want the bastards to suffer as much as possible for what they did to Sara.

Di you think your posts make you look like a better person?? I don't.

SnoopySantaPaws · 17/12/2024 13:57

WhatsItWorthToYou · 16/12/2024 23:00

Oh just shoot them. I'm suddenly very pro the death penalty

Too quick & easy for them.

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 17/12/2024 13:58

Pixilicious1 · 16/12/2024 22:42

Death penalty if I had the choice

Why? Thats such an easy way out.

NewBootsWeather · 17/12/2024 14:02

billionsofpresents · 17/12/2024 12:40

Why are people replying with options like ‘death sentence’ and torture and things? Do you think it makes you look good, that you are a ‘better’ person somehow because you are angrier and more self righteous and indignant than those who are against these things?

What a strange comment.

I agree death sentence, it's just what I believe.

SnoopySantaPaws · 17/12/2024 14:04

natwalesrug · 17/12/2024 13:53

These people did not turn a blind eye!Are you suggesting they new the brutality that this poor child endured and ignored.
What a dreadful comment.
These people could only work on the knowledge they had and ultimately its a judge who is the only person who can legally remove a child from the family.
The creatures who did this, are the ones to blame!!!

Yes, the 2/3 of them are to blame.

BUT FFS massive SS fuck ups her who little life. SS knew about his violent back ground, she was in foster care and they gave her back to him, they closed cases when bruising was reported. They did nothing when he pulled her out of school. SS enabled him.

it's nothing to do with people HE.

Donttellempike · 17/12/2024 14:06

Listening to the sentencing remarks, the Judge was so careful to say in his sentencing that he was not double counting. He has done his best to make the sentences unappealable.

For the father the term is pretty much whole life, and the Judge is bound by sentencing guidelines. If he breaks them the sentence can be appealed.

As people have suggested upthread, a whole life sentence seems right in a case like this. Sustained torture of a child, by a parent FGS.

What that child was put through is unfathomable. Not one of those monsters had an ounce of pity.

The sentence guidelines may be due an overhaul.

NewGreenDuck · 17/12/2024 14:10

I thought the judges summing up was just brilliant. He really didn't hold back and ripped into them. They really are cowards, they couldn't even look at him.
And I was pleased that he said something about Sara, so that she was acknowledged in death, not just a statistic.
As for the sentence. Sharif is 43,so that means he might die in prison. The so called step mother is 33 so she will have lost her best years before she is considered for release.
I'm not sure what the maximum sentence is for causing or allowing the death of a child is, but I feel the so called uncle should have got 20.
They aren't even animals, they are sadists and monsters. I hope they suffer every single day. I'm not normally vindictive, but I'll make an exception for them.
RIP Sara.

MagnoliaGirlie · 17/12/2024 14:11

Runingoncaffeine · 17/12/2024 13:32

I don’t disagree with you.

there’s also the emotional phone call he made to the police after he left the country

You can feign emotion for the time of a phone call or a trial, so that the jury/judge ar more lenient. He proved with his action (torturing a small child for almost a decade, daily) that he feels no emotion and no remorse for what he's done.

Effitall · 17/12/2024 14:11

Death penalty.

The costs of keeping people like this in prison would be better spent on funding the very services that should help children in need.

There is no rehabilitation or penance for monsters.

Runingoncaffeine · 17/12/2024 14:19

MagnoliaGirlie · 17/12/2024 14:11

You can feign emotion for the time of a phone call or a trial, so that the jury/judge ar more lenient. He proved with his action (torturing a small child for almost a decade, daily) that he feels no emotion and no remorse for what he's done.

Agreed. Judge even commented on how it was a ploy.

also illustrates capacity for manipulation!

bombastix · 17/12/2024 14:19

MagnoliaGirlie · 17/12/2024 14:11

You can feign emotion for the time of a phone call or a trial, so that the jury/judge ar more lenient. He proved with his action (torturing a small child for almost a decade, daily) that he feels no emotion and no remorse for what he's done.

It was manipulated bullshit. This is a man who tied his child up and hooded her for beating:

He was excited, gratified and organised this. This is not neglect or discipline gone wrong. It is someone who enjoys it. So too this grim woman. I dread to think about their motivations which are dark but most definitely for their own gratification

notanothernamechange24 · 17/12/2024 14:20

thequeenoftarts · 17/12/2024 13:12

Thankfully the judge in this case did his job correctly. He handed out long sentences for them all. I am glad Sara's murder has been avenged, for her sake. ( should have never happened at all)The poor little mite, my heart breaks for her. I am so sorry little one, you were let down so badly.

Now lets start asking the questions that need to be asked from social workers, teachers, police, neighbours, the home schooling process. Any adult that turned a blind eye to her abuse needs to be punished too.

Yes questioned need to be asked of social services but punishments? No.
Social workers did not do this to Sara. Nor did her teachers. Nor her neighbours. These monsters did.
No other individual is responsible for her suffering but they 3.

Do systems need looking at to prevent this from happening again? Absolutely
The family court and social services both need looking at.
This is catastrophic system failure for children like Sara. Social workers and the family courts are bound by a broken system that is in desperate need of reform and better funding. Social work is at the best of times a thankless, dangerous and poorly paid job. Adding in criminal responsibility for individual social worker for cases where it is a fundamental system problem is not the solution.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 17/12/2024 14:24

Runingoncaffeine · 17/12/2024 13:35

I also feel very sorry for the other children tbh. How horrific and traumatic for them to witness and experience this complete ordeal. I hope they get lots if support!

I can't see how that's going to happen in Pakistan

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bombastix · 17/12/2024 14:25

Effitall · 17/12/2024 14:11

Death penalty.

The costs of keeping people like this in prison would be better spent on funding the very services that should help children in need.

There is no rehabilitation or penance for monsters.

He should have been barred from making an application to look after this child as soon as one had been taken into care.

I can just about understand an inexperienced social worker making a mistake. But the judge who is experienced, educated, highly paid and presumably still practicing? No. This person is incompetent.

If you have had a child taken into care there should be a statutory bar preventing an application for the care of any other child. The family court is clearly too credulous and stupid to consider a clear risk. These are highly paid and qualified people. If they are not up to the task they should be prevented from exercising power than can mean life or death, harm or no harm.

ZoeCM · 17/12/2024 14:25

Ideally I'd have liked a whole-life tariff for all three of them, but I understand that wasn't an option for the judge, given the sentencing guidelines.

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 17/12/2024 14:31

I'd like the death penalty for all of them.
I know it is not practical as people would not come forward to be witnesses in these cases if it did happen, but I wish the sister of the step mother who knew of the torture and the neighbours who heard of it could be jailed for not reporting it also.

ABunchOfBadBitches · 17/12/2024 14:35

BobbyBiscuits · 17/12/2024 13:19

Hard labour. Digging holes with no PPE. Working outdoors in the rain without proper clothing. Doing dirty jobs like cleaning out sewers without proper PPE. No contact with any other person except their prison guards. Porridge with water only. Then if they die, oh well. No loss.

Yep.

I agree with this also👇

The UK prison service is too soft and too comfortable, if it were a jail somewhat like they have in Syria for example, I think I'd feel some justice, not here though.