So errrr what is the UK doing right now to enable its citizens to prepare for an attack from Russia?

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Are we just going for the head in the sand approach or are we going to get a pamphlet or something?

Russia seems to be behind two sabotaged fibre optic cables this week, running between Finland and Sweden and Central Europe.

Interestingly there was a Chinese cargo vessel at the right time and relevant locations. So maybe not the Russians involved directly.

https://splash247.com/chinese-bulk-carrier-top-suspect-in-latest-european-cable-outage/

How old are you OP?

We did all this in the 80s

That kind of attack could cut off a country's internet until they are repaired (5-15 days).

And productivity doubles ...

Advice on coping with digital/cyber attacks has been going out to businesses for a while now. Again, it's not something the public can do much about.

HMG would be taking a very big risk advising the country to stock up and be prepared in the weeks leading up to xmas.

Panic buying would inflict worse damage on the economy than anything the Russians could covertly and deniably do in cyberspace or against physical infrastructure. In November and December the nation's logistical infrastructure is already straining. It would collapse under the demand for bog roll, bottled water, and canned/dry goods as the part-time preppers geared up.

🤣🤣🤣 3 for 2 maybe?

Instead of wanting the government to prepare a pamphlet letting us know the various ways we will die if the UK is subject to nuclear strikes maybe we should be lobbying the government to de-escalate this conflict? Which is what they should have been doing all along. It shouldn't have gone on for more that a few weeks and peace talks were planned in the first month but were scotched by Germany I think.

Better they don't tbh. When KFC ran.out of chicken, people rang the police.

Imagine what they would do if a pamphlet came through the door warning of an attack? Just no.
We're not going to get nuked anyway according to a simulation. Hit the sea next to Ireland and cover a chunk of the UK in radioactive water. It'll disable us but it's not the same as mushrooms and skin coming off.

Who saying it's going to be a nuclear war (that's mainly just Putin rhetoric) - there are so many other ways warfare can take place nowadays, e.g. cyberwar (I'd not be surprised if there are lots of these already, some of the 'tech' issues with some leading firms may well be just this), drones, long-range non-nuclear missiles etc etc.

I don't really think we need a pamphlet that reads if we get nuked, we're all fucked. Put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye.

Because the truth is, if it happens there is nothing we can do except, hopefully, die quickly.

I genuinely don't think Putin will do it. I really don't. I think he'll get a bullet to the head from one of his 'trusted' people if he goes for it.

But if he does do it, then no amount of leaflets saying stockpile food and water, or stay at home, or get out of cities, or wrap yourself in bubble wrap and bury yourself in your back garden are going to be much use.

Once you start telling people to prepare for nuclear war, what you get is mobs of frightened people behaving crazily.

Remember how batshit crazy some people went over covid? The national loo roll shortage for absolutely no reason? Covid didn't give you explosive diarrhoea, and yet people whipped themselves up into a quilted 4-ply frenzy. Give the public instructions on how to prepare for a nuclear war and Putin won't have to press anything. We'll fuck ourselves up without him lifting a finger.

I found it an excellent read (hesitate to say I enjoyed it!) and have been recommending it to people

A pamphlet is so funny. Finland boarders the conflict so there is a need to prepare in case. I understand that there used to be public service information in the uk about what to do in a nuclear attack during the cold war, but if you look into it it was more to stop panic and give hope as the actual advice would not have saved anyone. I have personally looked at nuclear missile fall out radius if it were to hit London, depending in the size of the bomb I would likely be fried. We are an island. If we are invaded then we have nowhere to run, if we are nuked then all within the fall out radius will be gone. The reason the russions dont attack us is that we are a nuclear power. That is what keeps the peace sadly. I really dont see how a pamplet could tell us anything. What could it say to help??

I for one wouldn't want the government to spend millions on printing and posting leaflets to every house in the country, when information would be better just broadcasted on the news. The money would be better spent on other pressing issues, such as the state of the NHS.

Russia can withdraw to it's recognised territorial boundaries any time it likes.

"De-escalation" should not involve rewarding the aggressor.

If you disagree, I'll be round to annex your garden with barbed wire and a trench this afternoon. Be a dear and put the kettle on about 3pm.

They would drop from a plane

That was my first thought....that film bloody terrified me when I was a kid!

oh, re other types of attacks, cyber attacks etc the government and banks and companies etc need to pull their fingers out of their arses generally because systems are woefully inadequate and that needs to be sorted with or without Putin.

Recipe for borsch to welcome the invaders?

Anybody else sick of these phucking threads?

Putin's bluffing ffs!!

He's got a massive track record for this.

Depends, if they send the North Korean troops you might be better with some downloaded porn to distract them whilst you nick their boots.

Where's your nuclear xmas spirit?

This exactly. It will never happen for so many reasons. At the very least because Putin and his family will be killed.

Also - this idea of there being one red button which Putin would press is ridiculous! That's not how it works. He would have to go through many layers of security and various approvals from people in his team and military to do it. And it's not like theres a button and with a single press the nukes are launched! It's far more complex.

I wish they’re issue the pamphlet in tin foil, for this very purpose!!

Off to petition my own govt to do so.
Have also added tin foil to my shopping list in case the government fucks it up. Surely I can find an appropriate video on YouTube how to fold it so that it pops up nicely when the sirens go.

Your post suggests you think that Russia suddenly one day apropos of nothing, decided to invade Ukraine, which isn't what happened at all.

Russia is acting wild. But I think they are too racist to wipe out Caucasian civilisation. That would just leave Islamic and African countries. Putin wouldn’t like that either.

He won't nuke us.
The power of nuclear weapons is as a deterrent. Russia would be obliterated if they tried it on the West because the US and Nato would see to that.