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So errrr what is the UK doing right now to enable its citizens to prepare for an attack from Russia?

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 20/11/2024 10:38

Are we just going for the head in the sand approach or are we going to get a pamphlet or something?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/11/2024 19:03

Have you seen the chaos of a major supermarket having their payment systems down for half a day?

I have indeed, @NerdWhoEatsMedlar - at least the "down for half a day" bit, though not the chaos

This was in Florida post-hurricane and they just got on with it because they had to, and while that's obviously very different to a bomb it struck me as instructive

mm81736 · 20/11/2024 19:07

Put in will not attack a NATO member

110APiccadilly · 20/11/2024 19:09

Protect and Survive is on YouTube, for anyone who feels like taking a door off and using it to build an under the stairs shelter. I reckon it could add a whole minute to your life expectancy if you're lucky.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 20/11/2024 19:10

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/11/2024 19:03

Have you seen the chaos of a major supermarket having their payment systems down for half a day?

I have indeed, @NerdWhoEatsMedlar - at least the "down for half a day" bit, though not the chaos

This was in Florida post-hurricane and they just got on with it because they had to, and while that's obviously very different to a bomb it struck me as instructive

After a hurricane in Florida, with people used to hurricanes is very different to Sainsburys going down for half a day and 57 new threads being created on MN due to the trauma.

The UK is less resilient that Florida.

DogInATent · 20/11/2024 19:15

Chowtime · 20/11/2024 18:30

hahahaha!

Russia so corrupt everyone has taken their share from Putin to the oligarchs to the generals and so on and so on till you come to the bottom and they're sending 7 year old out of date rations to the soldiers on the front line! I don't fear Russia.

The medical equipment and first aid kits that have been captured from Russian troops have been several decades old.

The whole state of medical care for Russian troops is a disaster.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/11/2024 19:15

The UK is less resilient that Florida

You're not kidding, @NerdWhoEatsMedlar, and IME not just because we're unaccustomed to these events ...

The medical equipment and first aid kits that have been captured from Russian troops have been several decades old

Edited to add I heard this too, @DogInATent and it's just so sad
We may not agree with the foul regime those troops are serving, but they don't deserve this - although it's what they've got because the leadership doesn't care about them either

ByRoseMentor · 20/11/2024 19:16

Overtheatlantic · 20/11/2024 10:42

😂 Or we could try taking some responsibility for ourselves?

Good luck with that

JoJothegerbil · 20/11/2024 19:49

I was shit scared of nuclear war as a child/teen in the 80s. Now, in my 50s I have more of a 'what will be will be' attitude.

There's fuck all that I can do about it as an individual so I'll take my late father's advice; pour myself a large one, go into the garden and wait for the blast.

Fortunately I live near an RAF base and am not far from a big naval base so I probably won't know much about it.

Araminta1003 · 20/11/2024 20:22

Anyone else thinking now that the Labour Party are officially as unpopular as the Tories, the war and scaremongering has started? Oldest “Tory” trick in the book.

PlopSofa · 20/11/2024 20:27

I didn’t vote for him. I didn’t vote Tory either. No decent part to vote for in this country. They’re all dreadful.

Mt61 · 20/11/2024 20:41

Zinglenibber · 20/11/2024 10:47

We're we not told earlier this year to keep supplies at home to last us three days. Maybe that was it.

Just hope I get to use my stock pile of pasta sauce 🙄

Mt61 · 20/11/2024 20:47

110APiccadilly · 20/11/2024 19:09

Protect and Survive is on YouTube, for anyone who feels like taking a door off and using it to build an under the stairs shelter. I reckon it could add a whole minute to your life expectancy if you're lucky.

I would if I could get past all the coats, shoes & shite! 🙄

Mt61 · 20/11/2024 21:10

user9086572 · 20/11/2024 10:51

Cover and take dick might be a more pleasant way to go

in all seriousness things have clearly ramped up a level (or ten). Everyone should be taking sensible precautions against things like Targetted attacks on systems and infrastructure. If cyber attacks are launched on power grids/banking etc then having things you need to keep you and your family comfortable and fed in the short term is very important.

nuclear attacks with the weapons Russia currently possesses would actually be very targeted in their approach and so whilst they would be devastating in the immediate area, outside of that they would cause havoc but not death

😂

Mt61 · 20/11/2024 21:17

rrrrrreatt · 20/11/2024 11:00

There’s a government campaign, it’s the one a PP referenced: https://prepare.campaign.gov.uk/get-prepared-for-emergencies/ It was announced earlier this year and picked up by some media.

I don’t mind a digital leaflet like Finland but sending a paper one to every household would just be a waste of taxpayers money - direct mail is expensive and most of it just gets put in the bin anyway.

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& with the Royal Mail being so, so slowww! Will we even get it?

PicklesofMany · 20/11/2024 21:18

with the power of weapons and technology the general public has little chance of survival

PicklesofMany · 20/11/2024 21:21

From an intelligence perspective, the likelihood of a direct Russian invasion of the UK remains minimal, primarily due to the formidable deterrents posed by NATO's collective defense and the nuclear capabilities of both the UK and Russia. Any military engagement of this scale would risk significant escalation, particularly in the realm of nuclear warfare, where the concept of mutually assured destruction (MAD) remains a powerful stabilizer. Russia's military posture, though capable of projecting power in its near abroad, is not currently oriented towards large-scale operations against NATO member states, particularly those with the defensive and strategic advantages held by the UK.

However, the prospect of Russia engaging in hybrid warfare, including cyberattacks, misinformation campaigns, and economic disruption, remains a genuine concern. Such operations could cause severe disruption to the UK’s infrastructure and destabilize civilian life without triggering a conventional military response. The threat of destabilization through non-kinetic means, particularly cyber and information warfare, could increase as Russia seeks to exert pressure on Western nations while avoiding direct confrontation with NATO.

In the event of military escalation, NATO’s collective defense mechanism would provide a strong countermeasure, with the UK benefiting from the full support of its allies. However, survival for the civilian population would be contingent on the rapid implementation of crisis management and emergency response systems, particularly in mitigating the effects of initial strikes, cyberattacks, and economic disruptions. The UK’s critical infrastructure would be a primary target in any hybrid attack, necessitating proactive defense measures and contingency planning.

Ultimately, while a Russian invasion of the UK remains an unlikely scenario due to the strategic risks involved, it is imperative that intelligence agencies continue to monitor and counter potential proxy operations and destabilization efforts. The intelligence community must remain vigilant, ensuring that both kinetic and non-kinetic threats are countered with appropriate strategic and defensive measures.

Thevelvelletes · 20/11/2024 21:41

More cyber attacks,fuck with banking systems, health care, supermarkets deliveries /services all have an impact without firing a bullet.
I still think all the various outages that have been happening affecting the aforementioned is Russia fucking with the UK.

Mt61 · 20/11/2024 22:00

ByMerryKoala · 20/11/2024 11:12

You know you can't buy iodine at an effective dose for nuclear fallout at Holland and Barrett, right?

Would sun cream work? 😂

AInightingale · 20/11/2024 22:04

Is that what the phone alarm thing is for, the one they tested last year?

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 20/11/2024 22:58

hellywelly3 · 20/11/2024 13:48

Didn’t we all get a booklet a few years ago about how to prepare for different emergencies

There's a link above to one on the gov.uk website

nomoretoriesforme · 21/11/2024 08:35

timenowplease · 20/11/2024 11:59

Instead of wanting the government to prepare a pamphlet letting us know the various ways we will die if the UK is subject to nuclear strikes maybe we should be lobbying the government to de-escalate this conflict? Which is what they should have been doing all along. It shouldn't have gone on for more that a few weeks and peace talks were planned in the first month but were scotched by Germany I think.

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They won't be de escalating- it's too profitable. Defence stocks outperformed this year all other stocks/ shares/ index funds. Check Lockheed Martin shares- US defence company who controls / sponsor both Democrats and Republicans . They don't really care about Ukraine, peace, etc.. It's all elaborated brainwashing to make money and make sure public supports as we are paying for it via taxes.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 21/11/2024 10:08

AgnesNaismith · 20/11/2024 15:35

What can I take if I’m allergic to Iodine?

You only need to take iodine if you're under 30.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 21/11/2024 10:11

AInightingale · 20/11/2024 15:38

The Daily Mail (who else) are advising people not to use hair conditioner in the event of a nuclear attack. It's paywalled but can anyone explain this batshittery?

It's correct. Hair conditioner leaves a slightly sticky residue on your hair that fallout can stick to.

SerendipityJane · 21/11/2024 10:49

Thevelvelletes · 20/11/2024 21:41

More cyber attacks,fuck with banking systems, health care, supermarkets deliveries /services all have an impact without firing a bullet.
I still think all the various outages that have been happening affecting the aforementioned is Russia fucking with the UK.

The problem is telling the difference between a massive Russian cyber attack, or general incompetence and underinvestment from the businesses themselves.

"Oh my God ! Russia has hacked ChatGPT and made it spout absolute bullshit !"

"How could you tell ?"

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