This has to be the worst case of abuse against a child I have read

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I am absolutely flabbergasted that this could have gone on and not one person reported it. Not the family members. Not the neighbours. Not the staff at school. This little girl had absolutely no one.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13962633/note-sara-sharifs-body-court-father-confessed-killing.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile

It’s shocking that her father removed her from school and no-one checked on the welfare of Sara. Didn’t the teachers/headteacher not think to raise this with social services? Is a child no longer their responsibility, from a safeguarding point of view, once the child is not on the school register (especially when concerns have been raised about bruising)? And, the neighbours? Why didn’t they call the police on hearing loud slaps and screaming???

This poor child has been let down by so many.

I think the school has blood on their hands
Social care has blood on their hands

Reporting is NOT ENOUGH. If you are concerned then passing the book is not enough. You just cannot accept that social care 'have no cause for concern'. If you are concerned you should keep on and on.

Where the hell is professional responsibility. Never mind any moral compass

They removed her from the school.
Don't blame the school or the council.

The fault lies entirely with the adults who did this to her.

Rubbish

The school reported concerns and were fobbed off. They should have pursued it.

If a child you were concerned about was removed from school you should have been even more concerned.

What is it you expect the school to do? Turn up at her house, force their way in, strip her off and examine her for injuries? On a white horse in a suit of armour perhaps?

Schools can't just wade in and save children, there is a process they and SS have to follow to make sure any allegations stand up in court. That takes time. Without knowing what safeguarding process was followed, you can't possibly pin this on the DSL at the school.

And there already IS professional responsibility, teaching is one of the few jobs where you can be held legally liable for failure to report.

As for social services, they're dead in the water. They need more hands on deck and more resources and more time to investigate properly and less red tape and bureaucracy. It's nothing to do with "moral compass".

Maybe you should retrain as a teacher or child protection SW and see how you do at it.

Absolutely agree!
They are ALL at fault in one way or another. Soon we will get the nauseating " lessons will be learned"

Like with Victoria Climbe
Star Hobson
And many other children.

Disgraceful.

There are escalation policies in place for those dissatisfied with responses to initial referrals.

Maybe they should be used

Another set of killer parents are now going to be looked-after by our 'civilised society' for the rest of their lives. 3 meals a day, warmth, clothing, a bed as well as activities to maintain their human rights... How much will that cost us, for just these 2? Then, multiply that number by however many others in recent years have done the same by murdering innocent children!! The killers of: Star Hobson, Logan Mwangie, Baby P, Arthur L-H, Victoria Climbie and FAR too many others!

A FUCKING ROPE OR BULLET WILL SORT THE PROBLEM BETTER!

People might take better care of their children if there was more of a deterrent - like the death penalty!!

*I was meant to quote the poster who said they'd have banged on their door or called 999 upon hearing anything as a neighbour

I would have done this too, I HAVE done this before. I used to live in a 1st floor flat attached to a house meaning my living room and a bedroom in the house shared a wall. I single mum moved into the house with a toddler, it didn't take long for her to start feeling comfortable in her new surroundings and I'd hear her getting increasingly abusive to her son shouting, swearing etc. I reported her to the NSPCC after about 2 weeks. I think she'd been there about 4 weeks when I heard her going one day, could hear her screaming and her child crying, followed by a huge bang and an ear piercing wail. I flew down and hammered on her front door i was absolutely wired, she opened it and I told her I was letting her know that I could hear every word of her swearing and screaming at her small child and if she wanted to pick on someone her own size to come and see me!! I was mad, she's a big girl too but I didn't care. Her little boy was stood behind her, not visibly hurt or I would've called someone else. She was shocked and just slammed the door...
Happy to say I still live in the same road although a different property, I can definitely say the boy's living situation got less shouty after that and he's now at secondary school.

The mother reported abuse against both her daughter and herself. He was still given custody. The school later reported it. Nothing was done. I think this is a case where heads somewhere will have to roll.

I really don't see what the school could have done more. Referrals had been made numerous times and despite overwhelming evidence that he had been abusing his children both social workers and judges deemed him fit to be a father.

The fault for Sara's death lies with him and her. Then there are a plethora of other individuals and agencies who did not do their job as either a human being or a professional properly. But I don't think the teachers fit in this category

There seems to be an obsession with keeping families together at all costs and with aiming to return children when they have been removed. I know that this can provide better long term outcomes for children as opposed to being raised in the care system but there shouldn’t be an automatic assumption that this is the right goal for every case. Some parents aren’t capable of raising children and some are a danger to children. It sounds like SS knew the issues before Sara was born and yet they bent over backwards to keep her with a parent who was known to be abusive. She could have been removed as a baby.

Maybe people should look more at the courts and judges role in this ? they never seem to get looked at it’s always the social workers that get the blame

It's also cost. Surrey is so close to being bankrupt. Go work 30 minutes up the line and your on London waiting so professionals do that. Can't recruit or retain staff. To much on the workloads. Shitty management who don't check what the socail workers do. Agency SW mostly who Surrey told me they can't hold to account as in their words 'they aren't accountable and if we displine they just walk'.

It's a shit show. Yes it's a basic given that you shouldn't murder your kids. But your parents are evil scum, who is watching out for you? We all should be.

What point are policy's people don't follow? Nothing will change.

1. if the LEA (Local Education Authority) have concerns about a child's welfare they can say 'No' to home education (I HE for a while and on our LEA website there is a paragraph which clearly states if there are any potential concerns over a child's welfare, then a parent / guardian may not be granted permission to home educate. I'm assuming this would be the same for LEAs across England.). I don't know how it works in other UK countries.

2. concerns about Sara's father and violence towards women were already known about prior to Sara's birth.

3. despite having had complaints made about him, and Sara's mother raising concerns, the JUDGE awarded him full custody of Sara.

4. Sara's father had been known for being manipulative and aggressive, he'd previously been known to the police
   -The JUDGE still gave him Sara -

5. Sara said she wanted to live with her father, abused children are conditioned very early not to antagonise their abuser; again her father was already known to be abusive.

6. Sara's father claimed Sara's mother had tried to drown her, given what we now know about this man, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility, to assume he was making shit up for power play and dominance, but if there was even a tiny grain of truth in it, and given his history, then foster care should have been arranged. Home education should not have been granted, as Sara had now been completely isolated.

7. Sara's father is the stereotypical script for an abusive man, how often do we read this type of shit on here, and how often do we see JUDGEs awarding these abusive men unfettered access to their vulnerable children?

8. whilst the school, social services and the neighbours could have been more proactive Sara's father, step mother, uncle and judge who awarded him full parental responsibility are all far more accountable for her death, than any other group.

9. the family courts must be open and absolutely must be shaken up after this. If a parent is abusive to their partner or spouse, statics tell us there is a higher than average chance they will also be abusive to their children.

In an ideal world if parents are slinging mud and being antagonistic towards each other, then a child should be considered for care, until all the evidence is gathered and the judge is completely satisfied the child will be safe with a parent (ideally both parents) any doubts and the child stays in foster care, and where there has been any allegations of abuse, there is to be no home schooling option.

The family court failed her.

Absolutely agree!
Prison is too good for that pair of monsters!

A rope, most definitely!

You’re giving these individuals too much credit for their ability to think through their actions.

they won’t change their actions, some people are incapable of being the loving caring parents to a child.

Social workers etc making the same mistakes they've been making for decades. Keeping families together is not always the best thing.

There's one in Scotland just now the child died due to cocaine ingestion the mum texted the bio dad ..the weans deid.
What in all honesty can be done with people who are so callous about their own children.

That poor poor child.

id often think when watching the Christmas play at school about the few children in that class who would be dreading being home for those few weeks. All the excitement and build up, when the reality for them is so different.

It's almost like children are disposable to some in society and obviously they're not.

Sara Sharif's father 'has neck slit with tuna can lid' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14245311/Sara-Sharifs-killer-father-neck-slashed-tuna-lid-prison-attack-fighting-life.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

Was inevitable I would have thought.

Let's hope so