India knight on smoking in times

[FluffyMummy123]

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Just a tad.

I went to the links above.

Passive smoking kills more than 800 people each year - according to Roy Castle. All studies are either biased for or against now so we'll never know will we. It's like the MMR, "you're either with us or against us"

Smoking related illness costs the NHS £1.5billion per year - considerably less than the contribution made by smokers

And this is the best one.

Smoking related illness kills more than 90,000 each year.

The trouble with the last one is that the many of the same 90,000 will also be included in the

Overeating kills....
Lack of exercise kills....
Car and other pollution kills...
and so on.
Because what they really mean is "believed to contribute towards"

I've never claimed smoking was good for your health, but I'd like to see some honest reporting.

Not one of the smoking group would dream of forcing their habit on anyone who did not smoke<

But the very fact that you do smoke does mean that you are constantly forcing your habit on others - you may not be actively blowing your smoke in other peoples' faces, but you force them to smell your clothes, breath, hair and your second hand smoke from your little smoking huddles outside offices, pubs etc, whenever you have a cigarette.

Well there's no doubt it causes lung cancer is there?

I'm not claiming that smoking is not harmful to MY health. I don't care if it is, it's worth it to me. I heart my cigs.

My issue is with other people who used to smoke themselves taking the moral high ground. Hypocrosy, much? FYI, you only stopped smoking, you didn't acquire a special licence to enable you to publically judge others. You are merely someone who does not smoke. Just as I am someone who does not drink alcohol. You won't hear me on here or ever proclaiming this as a virtue. It's not, it's a choice, that's all.

Also, since when did it become acceptable to openly pass comment on other people simply because they enjoy a cigarette in private? After all, it's not acceptable, rightly so, to call someone a fat cow and condemn her for eating a cake in public?

Smokers have become the nations whipping boys and frankly, I'm tired of it. Smoke on that.

I think its been proven statistically to contribute to lung cancer in long term smokers. Depends if you call that proof, but it wouldn't surprise me if that were true.
All the passive stuff is unproven and keeps getting embellished in the telling.

KatieScarlett, that's how I feel. I'm not trying to convince anyone to take it up, but it suddenly became the cause for very nearly everything and smokers became 'evil'

And it isn;'t just lung cancer there is ample supportive evidence for the causal effect of smoking on empysema, and heart disease ~

(I'm about to plane two lessons on this next! )

I don't smoke outside, only at home in my garage with the garage door ajar. See Mable, more assumptions? I do not ever publically smell of nicotine as I smoke then shower, then not again until kids are in bed.

Smoking - Lung cancer
Drinking - Liver trouble
Food - Heart Trouble
Self righteous reformed non smokers - Hens Bum mouth from pursing your lips disapprovingly at the smoker who is simply enjoying herself. As is her right, despite what you may fondly be thinking.

India has gone completely bonkers. Her stances on breastfeeding and now smoking have seriously put me off her. She is such a hypocrite, going on about healthy eating for her children but proud not to have breastfed them and proud to smoke in her house (presumably when they are around).

I used to love her columns, now I just find her a bleating irritant.

Here's a thought for India - try quitting smoking, or is she worried about piling all her weight back on that she made so much money out of losing via the book????

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I DON'T CARE if I contract lung cancer, empysema and/or and including heart disease. I will sue no one, blame no none, regret nothing. Oh, and for the pedants, I do not intend to be a drain on the NHS or any other welfare programme. I will go happily when the time is right. If that's shorter than some, then so be it. My cigs, my body, my pleasure, my choice.

Littlelapin we are considered by many to be evil even if we don't do it next to you. That's where it goes over the top.

Martianbishop, I can pretty much guarantee that smoking irritates/blocks lungs so I'd expect it would increase the chances of empysema type illnesses. That one we can see the mechanism so don't have to make guesses based on asking patients if they used to smoke heavily and such.

I don't know how the heart disease comes about though I'd guess that lowered lung efficiency would have an impact on that.

'I'm not claiming that smoking is not harmful to MY health. I don't care if it is, it's worth it to me. I heart my cigs.'

Blimey, that is shocking. I just worked on a study on lung cancer and as part of that I listened to a long conversation with a woman with lung cancer who has 2 young children - not nice listening.

Oh HELL. I am ex smoker and all this is making me want to run to the shops. Must NOT read article, I like her.

People go skydiving etc There is a chance they will die. There is even a chance that they will fall on someone and kill them.

Little, I have never smoked on an aeroplane, or in a restaurant, or in any public place. People don't swerve to avoid me in confined areas, running away screaming so they don't contract the dreaded nicotine smell

Non smokers kiss me happily, because I don't smell of smoke. My daily consumption is not huge, but I love it. Smoking is great.

when I mark assignments I can tell which students are smokers they stink of fags it is gross

Oh please, don't try to guilt trip me with the kids mournfully visiting me in a hospice. Didn't work on the TV ad and doesn't work now. That will never happen. I'm sorry about your Grandpa, truly, but his illness has nothing to do with me. I am not at all ashamed of how I feel. If I get cancer, that's my problem. I will deal with it. Why should I feel guilty for accepting that fact?

I don't particularly want to live forever. I'd be off to Switzerland in a heartbeat should I become terminally ill. If that was impossible, I would terminate my own life. And I would make damn sure that my kids knew that their mother died happy with a fag in her hand.

Katie, I've spent much of the last year and a half visiting an oncology unit, watching people being put through all manner of hellish treatments to try to stay alive.

My dh has terminal cancer, not because he smoked, just bad luck.

The hardest thing to deal with, in all of the pain and awfulness was telling our then 10 and 7 year olds that they father was going to die. Whose even than seeing him become skeletally thin and being on all 4s vomiting bile. But at least he knew it wasn't his fault

How much do you 'heart' your cigarettes? Enough to have to look your kids in the face and tell them that you are going to die because you 'heared' smoking.
I hope to god you never have to. Half of all smokers do.