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edam · 20/04/2008 11:40

I agree with her. And pubs do still stink, only now it's BO, stale beer and farting (depends on ratio of men to women, though).

Judy1234 · 20/04/2008 13:08

Restaurants and pubs have been revolutionised for smokers. It used to be unbearable. How can anyone say BO in restaurants and pubs is the same issue or smells as bad. Yes you might have 1 person in a pub if it's a very rough pub who smells in one visit out of 50 but that's nothing compared with the misery we all had to endure from cigarettes before they were banned in those place. Most people are delighted with the ban.

barbamama · 20/04/2008 13:13

I am delighted indeed! It is so nice to be able to go out again without worrying about finding a non-smoking place for pregnant women / if taking the baby / grandma with asthma etc etc. This is how it should be - no one is forced to endure other peoples choices or miss out.

MrsMattie · 20/04/2008 13:15

Smoking is minging.

Blandmum · 20/04/2008 13:16

I find it hard to beleiev that every non smoker she knows has loads of friends who smoke.

I don't smoke and neither do any of my friends. I'm sure this is very common

barbamama · 20/04/2008 13:20

I agree - in my twenties virtually everyone I knew smoked. Now, in my thirties there are maybe one or two blokes at work who still do, that is it. And they are all actively trying to stop. None of my friends or family smoke anymore. I think having children tends to stop most responsible people.

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FluffyMummy123 · 20/04/2008 13:22

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Blandmum · 20/04/2008 13:26

I also find it surprising that she thinks that non-smokers are more put out about walking through the fugg of the smokers at the door, than sitting in a smoky atmosphere all evening.

10sec of nasty smell vs all night. I know which one I'd choose

Her argument is the last gasp (pun intended) of the smoker

Judy1234 · 20/04/2008 13:27

I shared a room with a chain smoker at work 20 years ago when I was pregnant but before I wanted to tell anyone. How things have changed.

I remember about 11 years ago my daughter then about 10 took her lunch tray in a depart. store away from where my mother and we were sitting - my mother smoked all her life until she in effect killed herself through lung cancer and empheseyma but was so good when we were children at putting us off, that we never started as she hated her addiction. She sat herself down at another table (rude child), then her older sister joined her and then her brother so I was left with my mother. Now of course that would never happen because there wouldn't be smoking in there in the first place. So very very many people used to be inconvenienced by so few.

Judy1234 · 20/04/2008 13:27

I shared a room with a chain smoker at work 20 years ago when I was pregnant but before I wanted to tell anyone. How things have changed.

I remember about 11 years ago my daughter then about 10 took her lunch tray in a depart. store away from where my mother and we were sitting - my mother smoked all her life until she in effect killed herself through lung cancer and empheseyma but was so good when we were children at putting us off, that we never started as she hated her addiction. She sat herself down at another table (rude child), then her older sister joined her and then her brother so I was left with my mother. Now of course that would never happen because there wouldn't be smoking in there in the first place. So very very many people used to be inconvenienced by so few.

Novicecamper · 20/04/2008 13:28

God, I agree with Xenia

KatieScarlett2833 · 20/04/2008 13:29

I smoke, DH smokes, some of my friends smoke cigarettes, others smoke other materials. The rest of my friends don't smoke at all.

Not one of the smoking group would dream of forcing their habit on anyone who did not smoke. I love my little tubes of joy, they make each day worth getting up for. Me, the garage and my regal kingsize.

Hust because I smoke cigarettes DOES NOT give anyone the right to make value judgements about what "type" of person I am. And if you actually are an ex-smoker, then shame on you for slamming others for the same habit that you had too, not so recently.

I have no problem whatsoever with the smoking ban and neither does anyone else I know.

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niceglasses · 20/04/2008 13:32

My mother was v heavy smoker too - 20-30 per day. She gave up about 3 years ago after constant chest infections.

I must be honest and say it doesn't bother me that much - it never bothered me in pubs and stuff, only when eating and then I would choose non smoking. I don't fully see why smoking and non smoking areas didn't fulfill wishes - but then I know its the smell, smoke etc, I guess its just never rattled me that much. And I don't smoke. Too me, its just a wee bit too much nanny state - but then I see the other side too, and I guess if all you've got to rebel with is a fag, then yeah.......

One thing I do hate is the way smoking is being associated with being somehow a 'bad' person, a bit like being fat or something. Its not immoral, its not wrong.

SoupKitchen · 20/04/2008 13:32

I smoke!!!!

I smoked for all of my twenties and gave up to try for a family.
I now have my DC and smoke if I go out with friends or if at home will have a cigarette at night in the garden.
My DC do not know I smoke and I don't plan on them finding out.

My father smoked when I as a child but I did not find out til I was 15.

It is my right and within the law for me to smoke. I still see myself as a responsible parent however

Novicecamper · 20/04/2008 13:32

I only know 2 people who smoke - going out with them is really annoying because they spend 5 minutes in every 20 going outside for a fag - better than smokign at the table but still a PITA. Can't they go without for the duration of a meal?!

I hardly know, or see, anyone that smokes though. It was so noticeable when I was in Rome last week how many people smoke there - and the streets are completely littered with cigarette butts. I was gobsmacked.

niceglasses · 20/04/2008 13:34

I mean btw the way being fat is sometimes portrayed as 'wrong' to......

Novicecamper · 20/04/2008 13:34

My PIL smoke and it's vile - when they visit they have to go outside but they reek when they come back in. In fact, I can smell it on their coat hanging in the hallway and anything that arrives in the post from MIL stinks of it too.

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KatieScarlett2833 · 20/04/2008 13:36

Regal, only when the family allowance comes through, icod. Bless the kids, they don't mind living on twizzlers while I fund my nicotine habit. In fact, I have offered to share them out to stop their hunger pains. I'm a perfect mum. It's high time DD slimmed down to a size 0 anyway, how on earth does she think she's going to get a man? For day to day pleasure, it's Superkings.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, so gooooood.

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girlfrommars · 20/04/2008 13:38

I never realised when I smoked just how much I stank of stale cigarette smoke. I never smoked in the house but it still stuck to my clothes and hair.

I quit 3 years ago, and now if a smoker stands near me in a queue the stench makes me want to vomit.