GMP Manchester Airport, New video

[ceecee32]

Just posted on Manchester evening news, a video leading up to the incident.
I'm still not condoning his actions but it comes more understandable

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/new-manchester-airport-video-shows-29625111

I've seen the new video. And the comments in the main news last night. It changes nothing. Nothing. At all.

I sat there staggered. I don't care what happened an hour before in a different area of the airport. I don't care sad happened at 7.22 in Starbucks. I don't care what happened in the lead up. There is literally nothing to excuse what the policeman did. The fact a fellow woman officer got her nose broken in the altercation just before, whilst not ok, is also not relevant.

I'm staggered at your how in earth they think Joe Public is going to swallow this. Literally nothing excuses policeman's final conduct. Nothing.

@ThisOldThang

"Given the violence that the police had suffered, I think it's understandable why professional standards may have dipped. "

Nope.

Completely disagree.

@User6874356
"Of course it’s not right but definitely understandable."

Nope.

Nothing excuses it. Nothing.

Plus there was 2 actions. The kick to the head. Then the stamp. The policeman made not 1 action, but 2. One action, then another subsequent one. He chose to do both.

“I'm staggered at your how in earth they think Joe Public is going to swallow this. Literally nothing excuses policeman's final conduct. Nothing.”

We will see won’t we. I think lots of people think attacking armed police in an airport does justify it.
Im surprised and heartened at the amount of people who are changing their opinions based on the new video evidence. It’s about time people started supporting the police, and not the criminals.

it is not understandable that a trained police office would react like that. That is why we have "trained" police and not groups of ad hoc militia protecting us.

These officers need much more training. All of them do if this is how they are going to react under these situations.

What happened before was completely out of order and needs the full force of the law and the justice system thrown at it, and i hope the injured officers are ok and getting the support they need.

But any officer who loses their head like that and stamps on someone who is prone, on the ground, not moving? Needs disciplinary action and training. and possibly therapy.

I think there is an explanation here, the police officer was under a barrage of violent punches, there is suggestion that he may have passed out at one point.

My point was that he may not have retained perfect executive function during the assault. I’ve been strangled, you have no idea about the rising panic once you start blacking out if you haven’t been chocked or strangled before. Your vision literally goes and you are dazed and confused for a period. You will generally pass out around ten seconds after being strangled and you don’t tend to bounce right back, add to that punches in the head.

People keep ignoring the effects of blows to the head and choking on ability to make decisions in the moment. It’s as if people expect the police officer to have zero change in state due to taking a beating.

This happened in an airport. Those thugs are lucky to be alive never mind free to walk the streets
In many countries they would have been shot
Why did they think their family should not have to obey the law?

They, and their mother, clearly believe themselves to be above the law.
Fuck about, find out.

Yes this has been explained repeatedly across the threads but some posters have an utterly childlike view. 'Good policeman does x.This policeman did y. He baaaaad policeman!'

The police officer had been violently attacked, was probably semi-stunned, had no idea the man on the ground had been tasered. For all he knew he was about to pop back up on his feet and start attacking again when this policeman was injured alongside his colleagues. He might have grabbed his gun. He took swift action to incapacitate him. He didn't shoot him.

I am so sick of people pandering to thugs. Our country is going down the toilet because of it.

When I saw the initial footage I thought the police man was completely out of order.I’ve now watched the second video on 0.5 and it is clear that he has received about 10 violent blows to the head, been choked and the pulled to the ground. He gets up, and just as he has done so his attacker lifts his head and no longer looks stunned and isn’t handcuffed. The head kick now looks like a good call, bearing in mind that the alternative was to shoot him and he had just been subjected to an extremely violent attack that could have killed him had the police woman not used her taser. The police man HAD to incapacitate him and this was an effective way. The absolute brass neck of the man to complain about being kicked in the head by a man he’s just tried to kill. I hope the police guy gets a medal for his bravery.

3 police officers approach 2 men queuing to pay the airport car parking ticket. In the 2nd queue are 4 men. and a child. Stood at the back. A child! One man has a shopping bag between his legs.

They don't back off. Some peoples immediate reaction might be to back off so as to not be involved in the scuffle, possible being shot yourself by accident! But no, many their first action is to get their phones and start filming.

The police officer then moves to the other suspect and kicks him, so his third kick.

Yes you sound adamant but you’re making it harder for police to live up to your expectation when in other countries those men would be dead.

I also think you’re unable to imagine what it would be like to be in the middle of thugs violently attacking you

Excellent, I hope it really hurt.

They didn’t “approach” them. They were there to arrest them and they resisted arrest then violently attacked armed police officers.

They were being arrested for violence towards the plane passenger that had supposedly insulted the mother.

These two are obviously used to dealing with everything with their fists. They’re now looking for compo I expect. They both need jail time.

having watched the whole video I would say the attack on the police officers in the airport definitely excuses it. It was a very aggressive and violent attack on armed police in an airport. The police must have been very concerned about terrorism and protecting their lives and the lives of the general public.

self defence and defence of others should be proportionate but there is an allowance in law for the “heat of the blood” - ie the adrenaline and fear in such a situation. The police officers conduct is clearly within that given the violence of the assault and potential danger to the public. The actual kick happens very quickly after the assault as you see on the full video.

One of the issues that came out of the Manchester bombing is that people saw the bomber beforehand but were afraid to challenge him. We do not want the public to feel that way and certainly not the police.

You can see on the video of the whole incident that it happens very quickly after a serious violent attack. The officer who kicked him may not have been aware he was tasered. I don’t think training would help - being violently attacked like that by potential terrorists is a difficult thing to train for to get exactly right. In the moment they have to make split second decisions.

to be honest given the aggression of the attack on the police and the fact it was in an airport I think they were extremely lucky they were not shot. I don’t think disciplinary action is warranted for the the police.

The “Tik Tok lawyer” who had been representing the 2 men dropped the case after the new footage came out. well according to the daily mail

How would you have handled the situation?

How someone who isn’t a police officer would handle it isn’t the issue- that’s why we aren’t all in the police. But they are.

@Thethingisyeah sat them all down for a nice cup of tea and a chat. Talked through their differences and apologised for causing any offence.
Honestly I hope some if the people who are posting pure shite on here are just incredibly naive and not as I fear, incredibly stupid.

@Jmaho 100% agree. I'm curious as to where these armchair officers actually live as they seem hopelessly unaware of what goes on in the real world.

Maybe the officer was suffering from hypoxia? After all he’d been punched in the head and half strangled by a piece of feral utter scum.