GMP Manchester Airport, New video

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Just posted on Manchester evening news, a video leading up to the incident.
I'm still not condoning his actions but it comes more understandable

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/new-manchester-airport-video-shows-29625111

The level of violence that these men used against uniformed police was horrific and shows a complete disrespect for the law.
The kick to the head was horrific and I’m not condoning in any form but these men are obviously not the innocents they claimed to be.

I wonder if this video will be played non stop on all news channels.

Somehow I doubt it.

It doesn't change anything. Yeah OK the video of them sat with their solicitor looking all innocent is annoying, but as a police officer, you don't kick anyone in the head in revenge. You don't lose the plot like that. It essentially brings them down to the same level. The video also now clearly shows that the man he kicked had also been tazered. Shit show all round. I wish they would release the bodyworn audio.

It certainly provides context vs the very heavily edited video that looked evil.

Given the violence that the police had suffered, I think it's understandable why professional standards may have dipped.

Agree.

Violence against police officers is wrong. Stamping on someone's head when they're tasered on the ground is wrong. They don't cancel each other out.

I think they are lowlife scum and they got what they deserved. Unfortunately, the police will probably be made examples of to passify the mobs.

I think the kick from the police officer was excusable given that it happened so quickly after the attack from the suspects. They tried to grab the police weapons and violently attacked them. They must have been terrified and would have been justified in thinking they were terrorists given the violence.

It still shows that the tazered and immobilised man was kicked in the head whilst down. Nothing that man did previously to the policeman’s colleagues condones that act. If it was a pub brawl where people’s loved ones had been attacked and this happened, I could see some justification for it. But the police are paid and trained for this kind of situation and, difficult though it may be, they need to have personal and professional standards that they adhere to.

the second thing happened at the end of the police defending themselves against extremely violent possible terrorists though. You can see how it could have happened with the adrenaline pumping and the fear that they must have felt. Of course it’s not right but definitely understandable.

To be honest I'd always assumed there'd been some significant provocation, it would've been highly unlikely the guy was just napping on the floor then got randomly attacked by a police officer, but from someone who has built a career in criminal justice, it doesn't matter what they do you can't kick someone in the face and stamp on their head, especially as a police officer.

Why think that? It was just played on the BBC 10pm news this evening, not everything has to be a conspiracy you know.

One policeman and two policewomen. I think most men would be upset at seeing two women be punched in the face by men like that. I’m not saying the kick in the head was right - but I can imagine how he was pushed to the limit after seeing this

My sympathy for the guy who was kicked has evaporated after seeing that video.....what a bunch of scumbags. BUT the policeman lost his self-control which isn't acceptable when you are in that role. He wasn't in imminent danger from the man on the ground.

Yeah, this.

They're trained for this. This is their job. If you respond like that to provocation, you shouldn't be a police officer.

I agree

These situations are so heightened and if you feel under threat you may lash out without even thinking. Yes he shouldn’t have kicked him but I would never want to be a police officer.

They're trained for this. This is their job. If you respond like that to provocation, you shouldn't be a police officer.

But training and a real life situation can play out quite differently and humans are humans & sometimes just react instinctively.

The level of violence in these videos is truly horrific.

These men obviously have nothing to lose. But the police officers should know that the answer to violence isn't more violence, especially when the perpetrator is down.

"But training and a real life situation can play out quite differently and humans are humans & sometimes just react instinctively."

I agree. It didn't look like the policeman had much time to weigh things up and he instinctively kicked the man's head when he lifted it off the ground.

I once read an interesting article that claimed the vast majority of what we consider to be decisions aren't actually decisions. MRI scans have shown that decisions are made before the thinking part of the brain is even engaged. Our brains then rationalise what's happened as a deliberate decision, rather than an instinctive act. That kick certainly looks like one of those events.

I do agree somewhat that the police officer should have been more controlled but I knew from the initial video and the statement that GMP made, that something very serious went on prior to the initial video.
It's galling that the shady lawyer immediately made it out to be a completely innocent racially motivated attack and other scumbags started protesting without having any evidence of what had actually happened.
However I think we all know that the liklihood is that these men will get away completely scot free and the police officer will likely lose their job.
And that's so fucking wrong. That's not the way the law in this country should work.
Police and government cannot bow to the mobs. It sets a very frightening prescedent. There is so much talk of equality. The law should be equal.

It is utterly horrific that police officers should have to suffer such violence towards them. End of.

I think it's about time people realised you start punching coppers then you're in deep shit. It doesn't seem to happen now - assaulting an officer probably gets you a slap on the wrist. I'm pleased the copper brayed them. The law on violence is soft. Carrying weapons - nothing gets done. DV, stalking, violence against women - fuck all. Take a swing at a female officer - Nothing. Then the public see an edited video and everyone wants blood. I hope when people see the brutality of this video they think twice before hitting a uniformed officer.

Not clear though that there was stamping on the head. There was definitely a kick, but I think the stamping on the head claim should be disregarded. Scarey how these thugs spun such a pack of lies about what happened in the lead up to the incident. Hope the charges received includes a charge for them lying and misleading what really happened.

I hope they are in prison for a very long time, unclear why they aren't already charged and on remand. Losing job should have happened same day, and other police present the same - complicit in the same crime if they didn't arrest the officer.

The video just confirms the criminal and completely unacceptable behaviour of the police - should be always held to the highest standard, any police who have any doubt this is completely unacceptable need to be removed, same for the mayor.