Three woman murdered in Hertfordshire.

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Absolutely shocking. A 26 year old man named as Kyle Clifford, believed to be armed with a crossbow, is being sought by police.
The dead women are aged 61, 28 and 25.

Sadly if he's saved he'll just get a life of playing video games in prison?

I thought this. My initial reaction was “why bother?” but then you know “why bother”. I thought of a friend of mine who’s a doctor who has daughters and I know that if it was her, she’d be grimly determined that he wouldn’t be slipping away if there was a single thing she could do to keep him on the planet.

RIP those beautiful, innocent women. Their poor loved ones 💔

this is awful, the epidemic of male violence must be bought into the public consciousness more.

I’m willing to march in their names. Any campaign groups that arrange this stuff?

Why though?
Who died in this attack, men or women?

Why is it not OK to take some time to mourn the lives of these women without making it about the men?

Is this monsters brother already in jail for murder?

I am autistic and yet even I can see how your comment was not well thought out and is very likely to cause distress and offence. I can tell that you didn't mean to upset anyone, but nonetheless you did.

He deliberately murdered all those women to hurt his ex as much as possible. He probably murdered her last so that she saw him murder her mother and sister, to maximise the pain she felt. He will have taken pleasure from her begging him to spare her mother and sister, as she almost certainly will have done. Them being together was part of the torture.

Sometimes there is nothing you can say as consolation, no silver lining, no "at least...". This is one of those times.

I don’t, let him take the cowards way out. Why would we want him on the planet wasting tax payer funds. And if he did that to my family I’d rather he was dead than the pitiful “justice” we serve.

Just read that they were all tied up before being killed, so it wasn't something which happened quickly. He clearly had time to really think about what he was doing, and stopping. The poor women must have been absolutely terrified.

I see this scumbag has now been caught and taken for medical treatment. Let the b*stard bleed out and die.

I think there is a strong chance that the perpetrator is an Andrew Tate acolyte.

Just so desperately sad.

Yes, and I also hear people claiming the opposite, that domestic abusers are cowards who will only hurt their partners. Not true. I've heard before of the wife's mother being collateral damage.

I wish we could have a thread to honour the three women killed without in-fighting, on Mumsnet of all places. I wish HQ would moderate the threads more actively and delete the offensive posts. I've found it really hard to read the threads today and find most of the posting is tit for tatting, as usual.

Violence against women by men is endemic in all societies and beyond horrific and shameful. There's no argument. If someone says NAMALT just step over it or argue with them on another thread. Educate them another day. Today is not the time or place.

I feel gutted for the 3 women who faced that fucker. I'm slightly pleased he's not dead and is going to face justice.

And of course I feel gutted for the men left behind who loved them.

And I'll bet good money that at some point he said "look what you made me do"

"I want him to live the rest of his life alone, miserable and scared shitless about being attacked by fellow inmates.

I want him to feel some semblance of the fear he inflicted on his three victims every single minute for the rest of his existence.

I want him to never experience any joy or even contentment for the rest of his life.

I want him to get no pleasure from anything. Reading, watching television, playing a board game. Anything.

I want him to be fed shit flavoured protein shakes to meet his nutritional needs.

I want him medicated so he can't get an erection and wank off ever again.

I want him to live a long life devoid of hope, calm and peace and abundant in fear, anxiety and intense distress."

This is nothing like what he, and the rest of them, experience in our prisons. Eventually he will be transferred to the same prison as his brother and they'll share a cell. Playing Xbox, watching tv, building up their shitty stash of cereals, noodles, tuna, lynx and other currency. Getting themselves a job as a gym orderly or on the gardens party or whatever. Getting their ironed shirt on for visits from young girls who believe they're just misunderstood. Enjoying the attention from well meaning but deluded external programmes facilitators. You can't change these men. Learning to play the game, keeping whatever fights they have to the showers or in cells out of the way, "wasn't me boss, didn't see anything boss". Until the day they are released back into society.

Me too.

A man has murdered three women because one of them jilted him.

When men stop committing over 90% of murders and stop treating women like property, I'll accept "when will all lives matter". Until then, I will add my voice to the PP in asking when will women's lives matter?

Carol, Hannah, and Louise Hunt's lives mattered. Not because of who their dad was, but because they were people.

I only became aware on this thread about 5 minutes ago that there is a third sister.

If the NAMALTers would respect the thread, we'd have no cause to challenge them.

How much of a punishment is prison to these people though?

No freedom to go down the pub or go on holidays, buy a house, have a loving relationship, but many men don't have that as it is.

So in prison there is no need to work, many educational facilities, food, clothing, TV, recreation time, the gym. Many law abiding men don't have that these days.

Where exactly is the punishment I often ask. Not thinking corporal or hard labour, but I do wonder.

What did I just read

If the NAMALTers would respect the thread, we'd have no cause to challenge them.

If it's the same posters posting the same thing-why rise to them?

Get their posts deleted if they are breaking Ts&Cs.

This murder is horrific enough without the batshit comments coming out about men.

I know. But there will always be NAMALTs. So what are we going to do? Always allow a thread that should be about remembering the women who were murdered become a thread for arguing?

Abort male babies?

One of my reasons for having no kids at all is because I wouldn't want to birth a son who might become a perpetrator and I couldn't birth a daughter knowing what men might do to her.