WTAF? Asylum seekers to be detained across the UK in shock Rwanda operation

[Tenmus]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/28/home-office-to-detain-asylum-seekers-across-uk-in-shock-rwanda-operation

"The Home Office will launch a surprise operation to detain asylum seekers across the UK on Monday in preparation for deportation to Rwanda, weeks earlier than expected, the Guardian understands.
Officials plan to hold refugees who turn up for routine meetings at immigration service offices and will also pick people up nationwide in a two-week exercise.

They will be immediately transferred to detention centres, which have already been prepared for the operation, and held to be put on later flights to Rwanda. Others identified for these flights are already being held."

I am actually shocked by this. A cruel, inhumane action with terrible optics and a colossal waste of money.

The economic migrants are ruining the chances of people that are in genuine dire need and being persecuted. It makes me sick at the thought - and we should get much, much tougher. It’s is basically fraud.

God help us if Labour get in. Apparently according to political analysts they are also going to reverse brexit so we will have a civil war to contend with as well. Deporting economic migrants is going to be the least of our worries.

My dad was an economic migrant. So was my mum's dad. I've never even claimed child benefit. My dad and grandad never claimed a penny of benefits until they were old enough to claim their pensions, by which time they'd paid in far more than they'll ever take. Are we ok to stay here or do we get sent to Rwanda too?

Do they have the right to remain?

Did they cross the border illegally? Or did they in fact come legally because the law at the time allowed that? There’s a big difference.

Laws change. Any country should be able to relax and tighten immigration laws as it sees fit.

Rwanda is crying out for people to come and work, build etc. England is not.

If you want your hardworking father to have a hospital to help him if he is in need, if you want him to have access to ambulances should he have a heart attack - a GP service - basic social care and a community that can support his aging needs then you really do need to wake up and realise we can NOT support millions and millions of extra people - infinite numbers of people arriving here illegally. Do the maths.

If you want your family to have any quality of life at all in the next ten years, then you need to understand that we can not take infinite numbers of economic migrants!

We will soon see tens of millions fleeing for climate related reasons. We need to act now.

Hahaha hahaha. Omg. No. Dear God. Based on what nonsense have you come to that conclusion?

It’s not funny. Really it isn’t. You might find it funny until your Nana dies in a corridor of a hospital. Or you are made homeless because there is no housing stock left

1.2 million arrived just in one year. So yes it is millions arriving - as they are just the ones that have been recorded.

You really need to start paying attention to the facts.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06077/#:~:text=What%20are%20the%20UK's%20latest,net%20migration%20figure%20of%20672%2C000.

It might sound funny now but it’s not really

‘Over the next 30 years, 143 million people are likely to be uprooted ‘

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/climate-change-is-already-fueling-global-migration-the-world-isnt-ready-to-meet-peoples-needs-experts-say

The whole situation is so depressing. Travel between countries for work or to seek a better life is a positive and helpful thing in most cases - though making those countries where lots of the young leave for a better life a better place to live is also important. Separate to that, asylum seekers deserve compassion, empathy and support - just as any human does.

Brits move abroad for work and a better life too, though statistically less leave per year than those who arrive.

The country isn’t crap because migrants chose to move here, the country is crap because it’s run poorly. Our government doesn’t actually care. It’s happy to feed people narratives about immigration, so people are focusing on the ‘other’ and not on the government themselves. They’re happy to tell people austerity is the economic answer (plenty of economists will tell you it’s not). They’re happy to have their cheese and wine while imposing strict lockdown rules on us. They’re happy people confuse immigration and asylum seeking because they only focus on the negatives.

It’s awful treatment of humans in a vulnerable position and shouldn’t be supported by anyone.

You know most of that 1.2m was not asylum seekers right? A significant number of them are in fact the very people keeping Nana alive.

It’s incredible that the very same morons laughing at the statistics and saying we need more migration - are also the very same people complaining that they might have their benefits/pip reduced, can’t get a doctors appointment- look confused when they are told we are at fucking capacity everywhere.

Its infuriating.

You literally need to educate yourself. Have a look at their growth and needs. What is your view on Rwanda? I’d love to hear it!

It's a real conundrum for the Conservatives isn't it ?

We have record breaking levels of legal migrants entering the UK, under this government, which is a huge number in comparison to those making the crossing by small boats.
They need to use the small numbers crossing on boats, for electioneering purposes and to detract from their own numerous failings on not just this but every other issue facing the UK population.

I am well aware that much of the illegal arrivals are in fact not recorded anywhere at all, and far from keeping Nanna alive they can be found selling your kids weed and class A drugs, trafficking young girls and setting up stolen car rackets. I work in a court day in and day out and see much more of this than you do, clearly.

The influx of Ukrainian and HK residents are not a conundrum. Not in my view!

I know Rwanda pretty well actually. Briefly worked there in fact, and visited a number of times. They, like most of Sub-Saharan Africa have high unemployment, fairly low literally rates and a young population.
The last thing they need is more unskilled labour.
Kagagame wants the ££££.
I suggest you educate yourself please.

I work in a court day in and day out and see much more of this than you do, clearly.

@Polishedshoesalways how has working in court been under the Conservatives ? Any issues ?

Apparently all the new arrivals are doctors and surgeons. I am sure Rwanda will be delighted to have them.

Again, "the illegals" are not the 1.2m. Stop conflating legal migrants and asylum seekers and I might take you seriously.

@suburburban
But birth rates are falling in many countries, which is why some countries offer incentives to people to have children. Because it's an issue for the future. It tends to happen when women have access to good education and more career options, and life is more expensive as well. Stopping immigration won't lead to women having more children.

I think you have sidestepped the issues with hubs in the pp

And also sidestepping climate migration in the article below

These threads often end up with posts like this because it’s hard to argue with the issues with ‘hubs’ nor dismiss increased migration as projected