WTAF? Asylum seekers to be detained across the UK in shock Rwanda operation

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/28/home-office-to-detain-asylum-seekers-across-uk-in-shock-rwanda-operation

"The Home Office will launch a surprise operation to detain asylum seekers across the UK on Monday in preparation for deportation to Rwanda, weeks earlier than expected, the Guardian understands.
Officials plan to hold refugees who turn up for routine meetings at immigration service offices and will also pick people up nationwide in a two-week exercise.

They will be immediately transferred to detention centres, which have already been prepared for the operation, and held to be put on later flights to Rwanda. Others identified for these flights are already being held."

I am actually shocked by this. A cruel, inhumane action with terrible optics and a colossal waste of money.

The influx of Ukrainian and HK residents are not a conundrum. Not in my view!

They have made up quite a small number of people coming to the UK, bigger than the number of people arriving by small boats I will grant you that.

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The main issues are Eastern European gangs operating across the country. They are deported and simply return with another ID. I genuinely think if we had televised courts the public would be horrified at the scale of the issue.

Ok, so I can't speak for Rwanda, on what basis can you?
How do you know what they need?

Possibly not but it would be good to prioritise the people who already live here and let them have affordable housing.

That is simply untrue.

Nearly 200,000 Ukrainian people alone arrived here last year and are very welcome

Agreed. These are people who have arrived here illegally. If I went to another country and broke their laws, I would expect to be held to account.

Why don't we get asylum seekers to do the jobs like fruit & veg harvesting? We have food going to waste rotting in the fields because nobody here wants to do the work.

Other countries are reacting by voting in far right parties. I, for one, never ever want to see a FR party voted in here which is exactly why we must get serious on this issue. It protects us from a far bleaker outlook. People are not thinking beyond this election to see what is coming…

Marine Le Pen is sailing into power.
Many European countries are in a similar position.

I, like others who have a view that it should be considered a positive have read what I can. Looked at pros and cons. Looked at our country and formed an opinion.

You’ve avoided my question. What is your solution. Considering Rwanda to be an option?

I mean I assumed it was rhetorical bile, but ok.
Not all are unskilled, no. Lots are. Are the government selecting particular skilled migrants to send to Rwanda? I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere at all. And if they are in fact skilled, why would we choose those ones to deport?

Great news. Hopefully once this kicks off, it will filter back to those refugees waiting in Calais, and they will take the decision to remain in France, which is a safe country. Absolutely not necessary for them to risk their life’s coming over on boats if they realise there’s nothing here for them other than a flight to Rwanda. Fingers crossed…...

That is simply untrue.

@Polishedshoesalways what is untrue ? that 200,000 is a bigger number than 46,000 ? I am not sure what your argument is ?

Being an asylum seeker is a defence to arriving illegally (as provided by Article 31 of the Refugee Convention).

You thought it was rhetorical? You’re really trying to avoid answering. What would you suggest? I’m going to guess your next comment is again avoiding the answer. You can’t rule out a plan, state majority of asylum seekers are unskilled and not have an opinion. I’m sure you must have an idea.

This is absolutely ridiculous!! I’m sure they won’t do it here in Scotland as police refuses to support the home office in similar things but this all thing is abhorrent

Possibly not but it would be good to prioritise the people who already live here and let them have affordable housing.

The small boat situation has only been happening since 2018, and the numbers were tiny for the first couple of years, so really only been having an impact for four years. Affordable housing has been an issue for far longer hasn't it ?

Yes definitely

It's not just the small boats migration that is a problem though. It all needs overhauling

I have now answered your question. Please read my response before launching into your next tirade. Perhaps you could respond to my questions also.
What would I suggest about what? Which plan have I ruled out, where have I said that?

Assuming you work in a Crown Court you will (obviously) only see people accused of criminal offending. The migrants who are keeping Nanna alive are here legally and our care system would fail without them - although some may also be asylum seekers who have waited 12 months plus for a decision and are therefore allowed to work in "shortage occupations" while they wait for the decision to come through.

Affordable housing is a luxury long gone. We are now at the stage of no housing stock at all. Your plan is to build all over the green belt but spend billions on the infrastructure required - it’s absolutely bonkers. We need a pause - a five year pause to absorb the millions that are already here. Then consider how we will proceed. This is not an unreasonable solution. The homeless shelters are already overflowing. The hospitals are at breaking point. Our GPs have closed their patient lists around here for the foreseeable future. Social care is buckling. We simply can not manage any more.

For the love of God. Drug dealers, petty criminals and those looking for a fast buck are not arriving here to work in bloody care homes!!!

You are honestly deluded if you think the boatloads of Nike wearing chaps with Apple Watches and a bank full of cash are here to wipe bottoms!!! Jesus Christ.

Because the government (the previous Labour government from memory) removed the right to work from asylum seekers.

This is ludicrous. If the Home Office has got the resources to throw at this and the inevitable legal challenges that will follow, why did it not put the same resources into processing the backlog of asylum claims long ago so that the problem would be largely resolved anyway?

Didn't we hear that Rwanda had sold off the accommodation that they were supposed to be putting asylum seekers into? So where are they going to be living?