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WTAF? Asylum seekers to be detained across the UK in shock Rwanda operation

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Tenmus · 28/04/2024 13:54

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/28/home-office-to-detain-asylum-seekers-across-uk-in-shock-rwanda-operation

"The Home Office will launch a surprise operation to detain asylum seekers across the UK on Monday in preparation for deportation to Rwanda, weeks earlier than expected, the Guardian understands.
Officials plan to hold refugees who turn up for routine meetings at immigration service offices and will also pick people up nationwide in a two-week exercise.

They will be immediately transferred to detention centres, which have already been prepared for the operation, and held to be put on later flights to Rwanda. Others identified for these flights are already being held."

I am actually shocked by this. A cruel, inhumane action with terrible optics and a colossal waste of money.

Home Office to detain asylum seekers across UK in shock Rwanda operation

Exclusive: Operation comes weeks earlier than expected and is thought to have been timed to coincide with local elections

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/28/home-office-to-detain-asylum-seekers-across-uk-in-shock-rwanda-operation

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Sureaseggs44 · 28/04/2024 19:20

BronwenTheBrave · 28/04/2024 19:18

One day it could be you, fleeing political oppression or war or hunger, relying on the kindness of strangers in another country.

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Not always the case . That is why we should make genuine asylum seekers path much easier .

suburburban · 28/04/2024 19:21

@QuintanaRoo

It was about Lincolnshire and flooding and farmers not being compensated

Apparently a lot of our fresh food is grown

We keep building on unsuitable areas causing more flooding

Also all the extra sewage and river problems

Spirallingdownwards · 28/04/2024 19:22

DolceGustoooohCoffee · 28/04/2024 13:58

Seems immigration services are finally taking a proactive approach to the situation, about time. Let's hope flights will take off and not be met with further legal challenges

Disgusting!

suburburban · 28/04/2024 19:22

Also,couldn't the French stop people coming to Calais in the first place and imprisoning traffickers

Spirallingdownwards · 28/04/2024 19:24

Wonderfulstuff · 28/04/2024 19:18

We have several refugee children in DCs school. I noticed that a couple weren't in on Friday and didn't think anything of it. Now feeling worried for them. Poor kids.

And FWIW they have come to this country as they have family already settled and working here who are supporting them.

When they get housing it could be anywhere in the country. Friend is a teacher and has refugee children in her class from time to time from a nearby centre. They literally disappear from one day to the next and usually the very good news is because they have been granted permanent housing.

Motheroffourdragons · 28/04/2024 19:24

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Leeksinthesun · 28/04/2024 19:24

BronwenTheBrave · 28/04/2024 19:18

One day it could be you, fleeing political oppression or war or hunger, relying on the kindness of strangers in another country.

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Or being an economic migrant? They aren't all fleeing political oppression that's the massive problem isn't it? How 'kind' do we have to be to potentially millions of people?

Sureaseggs44 · 28/04/2024 19:25

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why do we need to take responsibility over any other closer countries? As was shown by filming they all have mobiles they know what is going on they know what they are doing is illegal.it is costing us millions per day which could be diverted to social care .

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 19:26

Spirallingdownwards · 28/04/2024 19:22

Disgusting!

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Disgusting why?

EasternStandard · 28/04/2024 19:26

sashagabadon · 28/04/2024 19:08

Creating hubs in other countries would be a terrible idea. Which countries? Where?
those countries and hubs would just become a lightening rod for thousands perhaps more. How would you manage it? How would you ensure the most needy people got into the hub to get their applications processed when there could be humongous daily queues? Would the hubs be limited to just residents of that country or surrounding countries too? How many would you see per day? Why would countries want to host these hubs anyway when they could be a massive source of conflict and unrest and you could potentially lose your doctors, nurses, teachers?
if you limited numbers at the hubs then people wouldn’t want to patiently wait their turn ( how would you manage this demand anyway?) and so could still attempt to come to U.K. illegally anyway.
I think it’s a v naive suggestion that would be hit hard in the face by reality pretty quickly.

@Motheroffourdragons can you see these issues?

Sureaseggs44 · 28/04/2024 19:27

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Exactly. That is what needs tackling . Trust me other Eu countries have massive problems as well with economic migrants and they can’t control numbers . Genuine asylum seekers should not be having to take this route

Spirallingdownwards · 28/04/2024 19:28

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 19:26

Disgusting why?

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Pretty obvious why and doesn't need explanation.

Motheroffourdragons · 28/04/2024 19:28

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Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 19:30

Spirallingdownwards · 28/04/2024 19:28

Pretty obvious why and doesn't need explanation.

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Not really no …it’s about time something was done in my opinion…this country is struggling enough as it is

Wonderfulstuff · 28/04/2024 19:32

Spirallingdownwards · 28/04/2024 19:24

When they get housing it could be anywhere in the country. Friend is a teacher and has refugee children in her class from time to time from a nearby centre. They literally disappear from one day to the next and usually the very good news is because they have been granted permanent housing.

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That is actually what I'm hoping for! Although I believe their plan was to live with their family but I'm the first to admit that I don't understand all the rules and procedures around this e.g. they had to live in one room in the refugee centre when they had family desperate to home them. They are such a nice family and I really hope the best for them.

Sureaseggs44 · 28/04/2024 19:33

CatsLikeBoxes · 28/04/2024 15:33

With falling birth rates and an ageing population, the UK will increasingly need immigrants to be part of the economically active population.
This is simply some desperate attempt to appeal to a certain section of society who seem to believe all the problems of our country are caused by immigration (or lazy, workshy benefit claimants of course, another popular scapegoat) and win some votes. Or someone somewhere is going to make money out of this going ahead.
This a ridiculous scheme which costs a lot of money and does nothing to solve any of the issues sometimes people might think it does.
Allow people legal routes to seek asylum. Deal with claimants promptly rather than cutting funding and leaving people in limbo for years. Be efficient and humane. Immigrants are just people who had the misfortune to be born in a country where life is worse than it is here. If war broke out here, wouldn't you want another country to help you? Just because we're an island doesn't mean we should refuse to take a fair share of refugees by ensuring there are no legal ways to seek asylum here.

As I said I agree with routes for genuine asylum seekers it worked for Ukraine . And we do now have methods for controlling legal immigration . No one has said that should stop ?

so what are peoples other ideas , because if you have an answer trust me will get back to france to those watching their phones for news .

Polishedshoesalways · 28/04/2024 19:33

Economic migrants see the U.K. as a soft touch - and have blatantly worked the system for decades. Of course there needs to be a deterrent!

I genuinely do not understand the posts that say this is ‘disgusting’ what is disgusting is the hard working tax payers having to pay the bill - hundreds of millions of pounds. These people are not oppressed and tortured people FFS some people really do need to separate the two.

We do NOT have space or infinite resources

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/04/2024 19:35

It's utterly inhumane. It's also shockingly counterproductive. It will just send asylum seekers underground. They will still be here, just out of the system, living with friends, family or on the streets, hiding.

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 19:35

Polishedshoesalways · 28/04/2024 19:33

Economic migrants see the U.K. as a soft touch - and have blatantly worked the system for decades. Of course there needs to be a deterrent!

I genuinely do not understand the posts that say this is ‘disgusting’ what is disgusting is the hard working tax payers having to pay the bill - hundreds of millions of pounds. These people are not oppressed and tortured people FFS some people really do need to separate the two.

We do NOT have space or infinite resources

Well said

suburburban · 28/04/2024 19:36

Yes it's never ending

I think it was much better in the 90s

I have no problem with genuine asylum seekers

The economic migrants are making it difficult for our dc to be able to afford houses and have their own dc.or have decent paying jobs as the wages are so suppressed

It shouldn't be like that

Motheroffourdragons · 28/04/2024 19:38

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ClaudiaWinklepanda · 28/04/2024 19:38

The way people talk you'd think that no-one stays in the other safe countries. The UK is fortunate not to have a land border with Europe, or we'd have far more.

The UK does have a land border with Europe.

ilikecatsandponies · 28/04/2024 19:40

Polishedshoesalways · 28/04/2024 19:33

Economic migrants see the U.K. as a soft touch - and have blatantly worked the system for decades. Of course there needs to be a deterrent!

I genuinely do not understand the posts that say this is ‘disgusting’ what is disgusting is the hard working tax payers having to pay the bill - hundreds of millions of pounds. These people are not oppressed and tortured people FFS some people really do need to separate the two.

We do NOT have space or infinite resources

Some of the people they are planning to send to Rwanda served alongside our forces in Afghanistan, and would have been entitled to be on those last planes out of Kabul if they'd been able to get safely to the airport.
My friend works for a refugee charity and supported literally an entire hotel of Afghan people just up the road from us, whose claims the government took over a year to process. They could have been, and would have liked to be able to allowed to work and pay their way in that time.

saveforthat · 28/04/2024 19:42

tangycheesythings · 28/04/2024 14:27

This is disgusting.

Amongst those men sent will be hundreds of son's who did nothing more than try and find a peaceful country to live in.

They are being sent to a place still reeling from the genocide of 1 million people.

If they are just looking for a peaceful country, why don't they stop in France?

suburburban · 28/04/2024 19:43

Where's the land border in the UK?