WTAF? Asylum seekers to be detained across the UK in shock Rwanda operation

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/28/home-office-to-detain-asylum-seekers-across-uk-in-shock-rwanda-operation

"The Home Office will launch a surprise operation to detain asylum seekers across the UK on Monday in preparation for deportation to Rwanda, weeks earlier than expected, the Guardian understands.
Officials plan to hold refugees who turn up for routine meetings at immigration service offices and will also pick people up nationwide in a two-week exercise.

They will be immediately transferred to detention centres, which have already been prepared for the operation, and held to be put on later flights to Rwanda. Others identified for these flights are already being held."

I am actually shocked by this. A cruel, inhumane action with terrible optics and a colossal waste of money.

Yes I agree

Why can't we pause and see who is actually here and if they are working and contributing and paying taxes.

There must be so much money laundering going on

The legal challenges have already happened or did you miss that part?

My DC is already worried about the two asylum seekers in his class at school. They're about to sit GCSEs, it doesn't sound as if Sunak is about to put that sort of consideration ahead of his electoral ambitions.

You haven’t answered anything. I’m replying to where you quoted me. Apparently it’s rhetorical and you’ve already answered it. Anymore avoidance comments left?

The whole thread is about the Rwanda plan. Either it’s further avoidance or you’re completely lost. (I’m guessing lost.)

But surely that’s irrelevant, as whether it’s been a problem for years or not, its happened, and we are where we are. We have to sort the country out. It’s a shitshow atm, and madness to leave the door open making the situation worse. If Labour do get in and start building these thousands of homes they’re promising us, it won’t happen overnight, and could potentially be years before we have housing back to what it should be (if ever, because Labour are good at over promising and under delivering)

Yes a pause for a few years. We can then find decent places for everyone to live. Support them to find work and actually offer a decent quality of life. We are not a bottomless pit of resources!

Not one post ever ever answers the simple question - if they want open migration how on earth do we pay for it? Or do we just become an over populated third world country with no borders whatsoever? Because that’s where we are headed.

We need to get a grip, and fast.

They are not illegal. They requested asylum on arrival as it’s the only way to get it done unless you are Ukrainian

You didn't read what I wrote, your knee was jerking so fast.

Obviously drug dealers are not coming here to work in care homes. They're coming here to deal drugs. They don't bother to claim asylum (until they're nicked) because they would prefer not to come to the attention of the authorities.

LEGALLY RESIDENT migrants - as in those who applied for entry clearance and were granted it prior to arriving - do quite often work in care homes. As do a small number of asylum seekers who have the right to work because of systemic delay, as they are only allowed to work in shortage occupations.

By all accounts they've solved that accommodation off. So is that more hotel bills for the Home Office, then?

Did you know this was reciprocal? For every asylum seeker Rwanda takes, we are taking a Rwandan. Where are we going to accommodate them?

Sorry which question have I not answered?
You however have answered none.

We have millions on benefits that could easily work in care homes, we do not need migrants economic or otherwise.

Affordable housing is a luxury long gone. We are now at the stage of no housing stock at all. Your plan is to build all over the green belt but spend billions on the infrastructure required - it’s absolutely bonkers.

My plan ?

The amount of houses being built locally, on green fields is huge, each big new development is hundreds, the latest one in the pipeline is 4,000 , with as you rightly pointed out no addition to the local infrastructure, no new wards in the local hospital, no new school , no new GP surgeries springing up and this has been happening for a good few years. The cost of housing has rocketed, rents are ridiculous, wages have not increased at anywhere near the same sort of level and getting on the housing ladder is even more unaffordable due to the interest rates.

Have you seen the shortage occupations list, out of interest?

Yes what is the point of Rwanda if we have to take the same number back

Can't the money be better spent stopping them arriving here in the first place

It is illegal to lie about being persecuted and from a country that is unsafe when actually your country is perfectly safe and your life is not at risk.

Yes that needs addressing. We are paying millions of healthy people to stay at home and rot all day.

They aren't "all" coming to the UK. France and Germany already take more asylum seekers than the UK does.

This isn't true. We have committed to taking "a small number of the most vulnerable" refugees from Rwanda but we have not committed to a 1:1 ratio.

fullfact.org/immigration/rwanda-policy-refugees/

We are paying millions of healthy people to stay at home and rot all day.

Have you seen the NHS waiting list figures ? Also remember that a good chunk of the benefits bill is actually state pension.

They have more space.

Of course that old chestnut 😂

Hopefully Sunak’s recent plans on getting more of the population back to work and off the sick notes will resolve that. Most of the jobs where we have a shortage are unskilled ones. Get people who choose not to work as a lifestyle choice, back to work.

Have you been to Paris lately? Or Marseille? It’s an open air refugee camp, dangerous - filthy and violent. Is that what you want for our country?

Absolutely. Most of whom are not ill or dying but just lazy and work shy.

The fact that they know that, their asylum claim having already been processed once, they will not be allowed to stay?