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Dominic C Covid evidence 2

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Newtonianmechanics · 20/11/2023 15:44

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DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 11:16

People were frazzled because Covid kept coming at us

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 11:17

It wasn’t me, I didn’t do it. A big boy did it and ran away, I can’t remember, that’s not my recollection, things just happened…

All going exactly as everyone expected then.

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 11:18

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1732358648632860693?s=20

Johnson caught in an outright inaccuracy. Claims nobody told him directly there was any problem with the working environment in his administration. Is read a WhatsApp telling him directly that nobody wanted to work for him.

Just mutters: "I'm sorry." ~AA #CovidInquiry

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 11:26

OopNorfDahnSarf · 06/12/2023 11:13

In passing he mentioned that the gender balance of his advisors was wrong and there should have been more women in the mix.

Is that when he waffled on about when he was London mayor, his office was 50/50?

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 11:26

I think I might have read more sage minutes than Johnson.

jgw1 · 06/12/2023 11:28

OopNorfDahnSarf · 06/12/2023 11:13

In passing he mentioned that the gender balance of his advisors was wrong and there should have been more women in the mix.

Its terrible how these things happen. Nothing that the boss could have done about it though.

jgw1 · 06/12/2023 11:30

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 11:26

I think I might have read more sage minutes than Johnson.

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Roussette · 06/12/2023 11:31

He is squirming trying to get out of not going to COBR meetings. His excuses are pathetic.

Roussette · 06/12/2023 11:35

His waffle is really really not cutting through. Hugo Keith is a ⭐

IClaudine · 06/12/2023 11:37

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 11:18

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1732358648632860693?s=20

Johnson caught in an outright inaccuracy. Claims nobody told him directly there was any problem with the working environment in his administration. Is read a WhatsApp telling him directly that nobody wanted to work for him.

Just mutters: "I'm sorry." ~AA #CovidInquiry

He looks furious at being caught out.

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/12/2023 11:39

jgw1 · 06/12/2023 11:30

1?

Lol

Just realised my error. I took him at his word when he said once or twice. That’s an obvious lie and he’s never read one. In which case I’ve definitely read more than him when they eventually got round to publishing them.

theDudesmummy · 06/12/2023 11:58

Oh please let him get really rattled! I am supposed to be working but can't tear myself away, with the hope he will melt down at some point. What an outrageous liar he is. Judge will not be impressed!

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 12:03

Covid "had not yet really broken upon the political world... in my consciousness as something of a real potential national disaster" in February 2020, says Boris Johnson, despite the fact his government had already held five separate COBRA meetings on it without him.

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 12:15

He basically didn't believe the data

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 12:17

Q: Why was your focus then on communications, not on preventing the spread?

Johnson says it was because they assumed it would be like other viruses, like Sars.
The scientific community within Whitehall at that stage was not telling us that this was something that was going to require urgent and immediate action.He says they could see the mathematical implications of the reasonable worst case scenario (RWCS). But they did not think it would happen.

Q: But you were told Covid had a 2% fatality rate – much higher than those other viruses.

Johnson accepts that. But he says that “fallacious, inductive logic” meant they did not take those warnings as seriously as they should have done. He says they thought the RWCS would not materialise, but in this pandemic the outcome was close to the RWCS.

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 12:19

WhatsApp on the “No10 action group” on 6 Feb 2020 describing covid as something would sweep the world.

It’s being described as a “comms exercise” not a/o requiring urgent intervention to suppress it.

Dominic C Covid evidence 2
Roussette · 06/12/2023 12:23

My god, he is such a LIAR. It's starkly illustrated he played it down, buggered off to Chevening, didn't attend COBR meetings, thought it would be like swine flu. All despite warnings.

I wish Hugh Keith could say... weren't you sorting out your divorce during that February? (which he was). Course a KC can't say that. One can wish.

MidnightOnceMore · 06/12/2023 12:24

OMG 'we have plenty of bad flu pandemics' - er, no, we don't. We have annual flu outbreaks, where most vulnerable people are already vaccinated.

'I just didn't believe it' - what an admission.

MidnightOnceMore · 06/12/2023 12:25

The government had all the information they needed. They just didn't believe it, accept it, react to it. Infuriating to hear.

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 12:29

I should have twigged....

Angry
DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 12:30

I can't remember...

Angry
MidnightOnceMore · 06/12/2023 12:35

DuncinToffee · 06/12/2023 12:29

I should have twigged....

Angry

This is where the 'any government would have struggled' defence falls apart IMO.

Because most other PMs would have fucking listened to the information available.

Angry indeed.

Notonthestairs · 06/12/2023 12:38

MidnightOnceMore · 06/12/2023 12:25

The government had all the information they needed. They just didn't believe it, accept it, react to it. Infuriating to hear.

Yes. This is it.

Just not up to the job we were paying them to do.

MidnightOnceMore · 06/12/2023 12:45

It must be awful being from COVID-19 Bereaved Families for Justice and listening to this.

'I just don't know the answer'

QC: 'That's clear.'

OopNorfDahnSarf · 06/12/2023 12:46

I do think our government is set up to manage BAU and has no idea how to cope with a crisis. Perhaps they should have asked for help from business who I know were planning far ahead of the government or maybe the army who I imagine have to be able to deal with emergencies.