Dispatches . Russel brand .

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I actually like Russel brand . And I don't think he's ever hidden what he used to be in his heyday. He's always been very open about his drug use, and promiscuity.

I read his first book . I watch his videos on fb , and while I don't always agree with him, he seems to have totally overhauled his lifestyle, attitudes, is into yoga, self care, seems to be a decent husband and father .

Is this newsworthy ? Young famous comedian in heyday slept with lots and lots of women , consensually he says ?

Hes never hidden it.

On drug misuse I alWays had time for his views that it should be dealt with as a medical issue not a criminal one

What's the news story ?
I always feel like there is much glee and salivating before the media try and knock someone down.
I don't think this is a huw edwards where people would be shocked at him trying to pick up young women behind his wife's back

It seems that brand has settled down , lives a fairly mundane lifestyle and is happy with his choices .

Or am I completely missing something?

He's married. She's not leaving.

All that will happen is he will be banned from you tube. Big fucking wow.

He will slither off in to the sunset with his millions.

Nothing has or will be achieved here.

It's a fucking pantomime.

Nothing will ever come of this.

His career is hugely damaged if not over. He won't be booked by people for work now and his earning potential is hugely lessened.

Women will now know he is a sexual predator with form for assaulting women, lessening his ability to reoffend. Not stopping that ability, but reducing the risk as women will know he's been accused of offences.

It's a tiny, disproportionally small bit of justice. But that's better than none at all.

While I half agree with your post I believe if you get raped you go to the police, not to channel 4, you wait for an outcome of the case AND AFTER you go to the media if you want (whatever that outcome is). My problem with the women in the documentary is the moment you run to the media instead of following the legal channels you loose credibility, simple as.

I do believe this is just the start of this process and there will be much more to come - it is just the beginning. Let’s hope collectively it’s enough to nail the fucker.

He still turned up to his gig at Wembley this evening, albeit late. And said he's different now. Because he's a vegan🙃

I'm sorry I began this thread .

The people who are subscribed to his channel and create his revenue are seemingly standing by him. He has lots of support online.
I really don’t think it will damage his career all that much.

If anything, it supports his “alternative news” fringe persona. “Mainstream media is out to destroy me for exposing the truth”
etc etc

In the U.K. we are innocent until proven guilty. I don't think that someone who has only been accused of,not even arrested for, a crime, should be named at all.
Trial by media must stop.

So you think his overly sexualised behaviour which made those around him uncomfortable ISN'T relevant here?

You think he has much of an idea about the boundaries of other people when it comes to sex?

Yeah ok.

Dear God. I'm off to bed because there are far too many brain dead individuals who may as well just wave a white flag and surrender and say 'yep lets return to the 1970s'. And usher in a new era of groping tits and fanny for the lolz on tv.

I don’t blame you for feeling that way.

@HotSince82 All that will happen is he will be banned from you tube.

He will not, unless he stand a trial and gets convicted.

Very very few people feel able to go to the police at the time and you know that. I didn't because I was a young child and I didn't want to upset my family and I didn't want my abuser (who I still loved) to go to prison.

I don't know why I'm bothering to engage tbh.

He should not be named tho. Innocent until proven guilty.

Channel 4 were blamed for enabling and yet this Dispatches episode was signed off to be shown on Channel 4.

There were tidbits put forward almost refuting the claims made in the show I.e BBC/Ch4 having no record of allegations.

This confuses me as it gives 'reasonable doubt' about the allegations within its own show - what gives!?!

It strikes me that a man who slept with so many women would have a proportion of them who are vengeful. Can we really trust Dispatches? We were presented with actresses sharing a story.

I expected as allegations were in the 2000s there would have been some actual evidence presented other than victim statements.

You are making a wild assumption that this is all there is.

This. And hopefully the unravelling of yet another scandal will make it harder for predators to get away with this kind of behaviour.

I'm not sure why @HotSince82 seems to think Brand should have no consequences, and girls & women should just accept sexual assault is something that will happen to them "because a fair proportion of the men in the world behave in this way"

And what we have seen is bad enough

@TheMarzipanDildo Very very few people feel able to go to the police at the time and you know that. I didn't because I was a young child and I didn't want to upset my family and I didn't want my abuser (who I still loved) to go to prison.

You didn't run to channel4 a few years later right?

Can you pull it? I don’t think it’s in the best interests of anyone.

They throw us tidbits like schofe and how and Brand to salivate over and feel like we have a modicum of agency.

It's bullshit.

The majority of them are morally corrupt.

Brand just stepped out of line and lost his cloak of protection.

It means fuck all for the likes of us women at large, nor his victims specifically.

No justice. No change.

Just await the next one

@HotSince82

So basically "let's not even try to expose sexual predators because they might get away with it regardless and there will always be more of them anyway."

Catch yourself on.

Goodness.

As others have said, while it would be preferable to have him in court-court, the court of public opinion may have to do, given the abysmal rates of charges and conviction for sexual crimes.

Next, he's a bigmouth if he's anything and well able to defend himself. No need for pity.

Lastly, everything about his demeanour shouts 'doesn't give a shit about consent'. It astounds me that so many people here try to dismiss multiple allegations.

He's said on the record (to Piers Morgan if memory serves) that he considers women's concern for their dignity and reputation an obstacle to getting them into bed, to be removed by him.

Ugh. Bleurgh. He's such an obvious bully, I'd be more surprised if the allegations weren't true.

I am hopeful we will see an avalanche of reports against him in the next 48 hours. Then the police can step in, and should have done from the beginning.

Fine.

But if you don't then what can be done?

Nothing.

Although I do hope you got justice against the odds.

I think MN need to deal with the number of troll and new user posts on these kinds of threads - this can't be representative. It's like there's been an influx of Andrew Tate fan boys from twitter/X.