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lemmein · 2023-02-15T19:14:48+00:00

Fuck it, I'm opening another one. If the mods delete it fair enough. I don't believe the menopause or even alcoholism explains a woman vanishing into thin air with no evidence left behind. This whole case stinks!

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lemmein · 16/02/2023 14:46

Oaktree55 · 16/02/2023 14:36

For those debating what should/should not be made public. I think I’m correct in saying all information is public at inquest and Coroners Report anyway? So you’re actually just arguing over timing of release.

Ouch!

That's a bit premature @Oaktree55

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Suzi888 · 16/02/2023 14:47

The police watchdog, The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC), has said they have made contact with Lancashire Police over information made public in a press conference about Ms Bulley's private life.

Good. About bloody time they were held accountable.

plumduck · 16/02/2023 14:47

lemmein · 16/02/2023 14:31

If a newspaper was going to run with the story the police would've mentioned it in their initial statement.

They've seen the backlash from yesterday and suddenly it was going to be leaked - yeah, right!

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I believe them. The media are vultures

Nicknacky · 16/02/2023 14:47

lemmein · 16/02/2023 14:44

So what would be more acceptable to you?

Not using a woman's private issues to take the increasing heat off the police for a start.

Do you agree with what they did yesterday and do you believe their motives for releasing that info? I know you're a police officer but surely you aren't all one homogenous group with collective thoughts. Would you have done what they did yesterday?

I used to work for childrens services so I understand constant criticism and finger-pointing is frustrating - but it didn't make me blind to the many errors made by SWs. No public service is above scrutiny.

Again, no answer as to what you would prefer as that info was coming out, like it or not.

I don’t like that that info had to come out but the police had no choice, better to release it themselves than have the media run with horrific headlines as no doubt that’s what would have happened.

Im not a Detective Super in charge of a major enquiry, so I can’t say what I would have done as that decision is way, way above my pay scale.

plumduck · 16/02/2023 14:49

HymenOrNot · 16/02/2023 14:39

It was allegedly the BBC who had the story and approached the police saying that they were going to publish giving the police the opportunity to comment first

As is usual practice

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That was vaugely decent of them I guess

Commonsensitivity · 16/02/2023 14:49

I've just looked at NBs Facebook business profile. She comes across as super organised and on the ball. I don't believe this alcohol narrative. I'm sorry but I don't.

drivinmecrazy · 16/02/2023 14:50

FFS will you just stop!!!
I cannot believe that, particularly in light of the family's most recent statement, that this thread is still going in the Same direction.
It's clear that the police were forced to refer to NBs vulnerabilities in yesterdays press conference but that wasn't enough.
They subsequently issued the evening statement where they were again attacked.
The poor family follow this up today with a heart wrenching press release to stop it.
Still you'll fight.
You're certainly not raising awareness of NB.
I think you've forgotten there is a very vulnerable population woman at the centre of this. Not forgetting her heartbroken family.
Justify it all you want but it is what it is. Ghoulish.

Nicknacky · 16/02/2023 14:51

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lemmein · 16/02/2023 14:51

Again, no answer as to what you would prefer as that info was coming out, like it or not.

Said who? Nikki has been missing for 3 weeks. The media has been pretty much involved from day one. Huge coincidence that the press were going to leak the story immediately after that car-crash of a presser yesterday isn't it?

Maybe it is a coincidence - in which case if I was their press officer I would have mentioned the impending leak in the initial statement, bizarre that they never really.

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Nicknacky · 16/02/2023 14:52

lemmein · 16/02/2023 14:51

Again, no answer as to what you would prefer as that info was coming out, like it or not.

Said who? Nikki has been missing for 3 weeks. The media has been pretty much involved from day one. Huge coincidence that the press were going to leak the story immediately after that car-crash of a presser yesterday isn't it?

Maybe it is a coincidence - in which case if I was their press officer I would have mentioned the impending leak in the initial statement, bizarre that they never really.

Says the recent statement from the family.

Why would the police mention potential leaks in statement, that’s just going to add fuel to the fire!

Commonsensitivity · 16/02/2023 14:53

So you think the family have lied about the alcohol issues?

And why couldn’t someone who seems in the face of it to have it together have alcohol issues?

I can't say what I think or it will get deleted. Alcohol and daily dog walks and schools runs don't generally mix that well.

Twonewcats · 16/02/2023 14:53

HymenOrNot · 16/02/2023 14:39

It was allegedly the BBC who had the story and approached the police saying that they were going to publish giving the police the opportunity to comment first

As is usual practice

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any evidence of what they were going to publish? Any evidence it was them? Or just more gossip based on something read on twitter? I'd personally doubt they would start getting grubby about it - that's not their style

Tidsleytiddy · 16/02/2023 14:55

TrentCrimmTheIndependent · 15/02/2023 22:47

I really don't think that the police are writing her off as a suicidal, menopausal lush.

I think, or at least hope, that they are trying to say that they have very good reasons (that they haven't and won't release) to think that she has disappeared of her own accord and not due to a third party.

If anything, I think they're trying to protect Nicola a little bit, by saying she's had issues in the past, and now, due to meno (which let's face it, is a bloody good reason for any of us to lose our MH) she's been having difficulty managing it again.

And, if there was a recent incident where 'no one has been arrested', there could be the small possibility that someone WAS facing charges, and that might have been enough to break the camels back.

Yes and this reminds me of Caroline Flack

User45378754 · 16/02/2023 14:56

Commonsensitivity · 16/02/2023 14:49

I've just looked at NBs Facebook business profile. She comes across as super organised and on the ball. I don't believe this alcohol narrative. I'm sorry but I don't.

How odd - even when the family have proactively supported the police statement?

Why is it so challenging for you to come to terms with all is not as it seems on FB?

Loads of people are struggling inside - why would you reject that?

HymenOrNot · 16/02/2023 14:58

Twonewcats · 16/02/2023 14:53

any evidence of what they were going to publish? Any evidence it was them? Or just more gossip based on something read on twitter? I'd personally doubt they would start getting grubby about it - that's not their style

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Not 'grubby' it's a legal requirement to check stories before publishing them

Twonewcats · 16/02/2023 14:58

Commonsensitivity · 16/02/2023 14:49

I've just looked at NBs Facebook business profile. She comes across as super organised and on the ball. I don't believe this alcohol narrative. I'm sorry but I don't.

wtf? So you're suggesting it isn't possible to come across as on the ball yet be battling an addiction and seriously struggling?
Anyone looking at my personal FB would think I have a great happy life - however, I am on antidepressants, drink FAR too much, and spend many days in tears over constant battles with my ASD son - who, incidentally, people don't believe he struggles either, but is constantly having meltdowns and making awful/dangerous life choices that even close family don't know about

NothingButAWalkover · 16/02/2023 14:58

lemmein · 16/02/2023 13:54

Nobody was questioning why the police sprung into action immediately, so them releasing that information yesterday to explain why she was considered high-risk from day one doesn't make sense. I had assumed it was a high-risk case because a mum had gone missing leaving her dog/phone on site. I would expect the police to act immediately. This is not why they released that info - absolute bullshit.

People were questioning why they were so focused on the river, despite intensive searches coming up with nothing. A menopausal women who has some drink issues doesn't automatically mean she's taken her own life (which is very much what they're implying!) nor are they protective factors from harm. They can say they're keeping an open mind as much as they want, they can pretend their words have been misconstrued by the press - but they've said pretty much from day one she's in that river. As the days are ticking by and she's still not been found they're looking pretty desperate/stupid now.

The SIO was clearly rattled during the presser, she dodged the questions about the bench/red van/fishermen - the last 2 I can understand with it being an ongoing enquiry, but the bench still being in situ with the world and his wife traipsing all over it is a pretty big mistake to make if your river hypothesis is wrong.

Their whole hypothesis seems to stem from Nikki experiencing menopause issues - that should concern us all. They released that info yesterday to take the heat off themselves which is pretty fucking appalling.

And why do they keep going on about 'paths' - 'she was not seen on the path covered by cctv' - have these people never cut across a field? Jumped over a fence? Not everyone uses designated entrances/exits ffs - especially if they don't want to be seen.

A water-loving dog doesn't just sit nicely waiting whilst you go off to drown yourself in a shallow river 🙄

Whole thing reeks.

Agree with every word.

Inkanta · 16/02/2023 15:00

Alcohol and daily dog walks and schools runs don't generally mix that well

Yep my thoughts too. Must be more to it.

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lemmein · 16/02/2023 15:01

*Says the recent statement from the family.

Why would the police mention potential leaks in statement, that’s just going to add fuel to the fire!*

I disagree. Their whole point during the press con yesterday was about media intrusion - adding that to the initial statement would've strengthened their point.

Anyway, we'll never know 🤷🏻‍♀️

I wouldn't put too much weight on a joint family/police statement. PA was singing the polices praises during his interview even though he was clearly frustrated by the investigation. The McCanns also spoke out in support of the police till they were on home ground. People generally go along with the police when they're dependent on them for finding their loved ones.

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lemmein · 16/02/2023 15:02

Bold fail again! 😐 sorry, that was to @Nicknacky

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User45378754 · 16/02/2023 15:02

Inkanta · 16/02/2023 15:00

Alcohol and daily dog walks and schools runs don't generally mix that well

Yep my thoughts too. Must be more to it.

I don’t understand this statement - can you explain a bit more (without pointing fingers) thanks

plumduck · 16/02/2023 15:03

My thoughts with all the staff out searching today

Inkanta · 16/02/2023 15:05

User45378754 · 16/02/2023 15:02

I don’t understand this statement - can you explain a bit more (without pointing fingers) thanks

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No, if I said what I thought I'd get deleted too.

Nicknacky · 16/02/2023 15:07

lemmein · 16/02/2023 15:01

*Says the recent statement from the family.

Why would the police mention potential leaks in statement, that’s just going to add fuel to the fire!*

I disagree. Their whole point during the press con yesterday was about media intrusion - adding that to the initial statement would've strengthened their point.

Anyway, we'll never know 🤷🏻‍♀️

I wouldn't put too much weight on a joint family/police statement. PA was singing the polices praises during his interview even though he was clearly frustrated by the investigation. The McCanns also spoke out in support of the police till they were on home ground. People generally go along with the police when they're dependent on them for finding their loved ones.

So to answer my question, who would you have preferred to release the info? The police in a controlled manner or the gutter press?

confounded234 · 16/02/2023 15:09

Where does it say that the BBC was the outlet going to run with the story? That's not normally their style, normally one of the red tops.