Nicola Bulley 10

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Fuck it, I'm opening another one. If the mods delete it fair enough.

I don't believe the menopause or even alcoholism explains a woman vanishing into thin air with no evidence left behind.

This whole case stinks!

In order to discredit the investigation??? Once again you are making an allegation against this man that is totally inappropriate

Perhaps her disappearing is out of character, perhaps he does believe that she wouldn't harm herself.

Not by herself, surely ? And to leave her daughters would seem to indicate an affair rather than a friend helping her do a runner or even putting her up for a short while.
However the opportunity and ability was there and doable with assistance. Her dog wasn't left callously as some have said, but in the pretty sure knowledge it would be found within the hour as indeed she was.

Well I’m in peri menopause and have a GP visit on records. Both those things don’t indicate much about my mh. I am the age and it’s why I find it odd.

Menopause is such a broad range of symptoms.

Alcohol and rivers are not a good mix.

I am a bit dubious about this alcohol thing tbh. The poor woman isn't even about to defend herself. Seems all very convenient.

'But the consensus from experts is that her body would have been found by now'.

In 1975 a teenage traffic accident victim, known to have gone into that river was not found until months later.
The river flows into Morecambe Bay, where 23 Chinese cockle pickers drowned; one was not found until 6 years later, another has never been found.

The Police said yesterday that Paul informed them early on about these things.

The Internet was ready to explode yesterday after the conference about her ' vulnerabilities', they ranged from things like anxiety, depression, cancer, husband beater, epilepsy, diabetic, drug addict etc etc it was really getting out of hand the assumptions people were making. The demands from people across all platforms for the police to give more information was crazy.

So they gave further information and of course people are not happy.

IMO there should be no shame in telling people about menopause, maybe this will wake some doctors up into realising that the symptoms are awful and are real. Myself like many on here have been fobbed off by our doctors telling us it's in our heads and filling us with anti depressants. When, really what we need is our hormones sorted out.

With regards to her drinking, no one knows the full extent of it except her partner and family, I doubt she was drinking 24/7, however it must have been serious enough for her partner to be worried about her.

I know and have seen 1st hand functioning alcoholics and you would never know they have been drinking, they can very easily hold down jobs and do every day things like everyone else.

The Police said that her partner told them the alcohol issues have only re surfaced since she experienced menopause symptoms.

It’s not being menopausal in isolation or drinking in isolation. It’s the whole picture which the police are obviously party to eg the welfare call possibly medical notes. It shows that in her case a number of factors have overwhelmed her. Obviously not all menopausal women are suicidal but my point is the effects on many (not all clearly) are not fully appreciated or often misunderstood etc. and the self medication with alcohol is quite widespread but often dressed up as something else.

“Just a quick look around female friends this age when you scratch beneath the surface reveal self medicating with excess alcohol or many being on antidepressants.” Really… hmm.

Yes really!

Yes it does

@Suzi888 really that is so patronising. If you have not experienced it yourself you have no idea how incredibly difficult menopause can be. It is dismissal like this that stops many woman from receiving the help they need.

Yes really, I also agree with this.

It’s not being hushed. You’re missing the point entirely. But apparently ovaries is a dirty word to you so probably not worth trying to explain it to you. Read the headlines today. That should help.

Yes, really. Maybe your friends just don't feel comfortable talking to you about it.

I'm just listening to LBC's discussion about this and everyone's calling in to kick off about what Rebecca Smith wore at the press conference, saying she looked like she was heading out on a night in the town and was dressed inappropriately. I think I was too focussed on what she had to say, but I'm surprised by just how many people are annoyed by what she wore.

I'm dubious about the idea that she was alcohol impaired/and or had a mental crisis at 10am in the morning on a work call - yes of course that's posssible but why did her partner let her drive her children if he worried that she might be alcohol impaired or mentally distressed? He was interviewed by the police when he called them to report her missing and he obviously told them at that time but also it seems clear neither he or the police believed her to be in such a state and the investigation proceeded as such.

In the first few days after she disappeared the police clearly stated that she had no health vulnerabilities - this is crucial because it set direction of how this has been investigated by both the police and professional divers etc. They waited three weeks to suddenly changed their assessment of her? I'm not surprised so many retired police offical and investigators, search divers etc. are coming out as so critical of the Lancashire police for doing this now. They're clearly flailing.

It feels like within the space of five years, we have swung from the menopause being a taboo subject never to be addressed publicly to it being recognised as a condition which society must be made aware of via celebrity testimonies to this: the menopausal woman as a destructive, uncontrollable force. We have a lot to learn from certain tribal cultures where women of this age group and venerated for their wisdom and maturity.

twitter.com/KayBurley/status/1626151419563720783?t=49XJ6g-7bnWE5LevQSgZtA&s=19

SKY NEWS

"Shadow Home Secretary wants urgent answers from Lancs police after they released highly personal details about missing mum Nicola Bulley.

@YvetteCooperMP says she has a lot of questions and concerns."

No one, including the police suggested she was drinking that morning.

and the police didn’t change their assessment of her 3 weeks later. They assessed her as vulnerable right from the start. They just didn’t divulge the information.

I don't understand why it wasn't mentioned earlier, nevermind usually kept private. It's important information. For the police to do a welfare check is massive.

Menopause can be horrendous, I'm going though it just and I feel like a totally different person, I have withdrawn socially and struggle with things that used to be so easy

I've also had to fight fro 18 months to get hrt and even then I had to go private . I feel for any woman having to go through this

"and the police didn’t change their assessment of her 3 weeks later. They assessed her as vulnerable right from the start. They just didn’t divulge the information."

On 3 February in their press conference they actually said there were 'no significant issues involving Nicola's health'.

Maybe, like a lot of people, she got angry, loud, aggressive when she'd been drinking. Maybe there were lots of recent celebrations where she drank too much ( Christmas, deals being signed on, girls nights out) and it had caused a few problems, hence PA mentioning it? A particularly drunk night and an altercation with him ( normal in lots of relationships) when he called police because she was really worrying him, kids may have witnessed it, visitors may have been there.

Police often don’t divulge all of the info at the start though do they? And there are valid reasons for that.