Nicola Bulley 10

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Fuck it, I'm opening another one. If the mods delete it fair enough.

I don't believe the menopause or even alcoholism explains a woman vanishing into thin air with no evidence left behind.

This whole case stinks!

“I feel very sorry for the police here too.”

Say what now… 🤦🏼‍♀️

The same exact thing sprung to my mind. I think that’s why PA has been keeping it from people because he wants it to be investigated without bias.

Then it’s a daft question, as she’d need food. And shelter. Supplies. Booze would be the least of her worries. So if she was hiding someone would be helping her. It is highly, highly unlikely this is the case.

@schloss

What you are saying is basic knowledge. Of course MH can go against you on medical records, no one is really disputing that. But if this lady was going through an active crisis whereby police attended with HCPs and THEN becomes a missing person you would have to be a special sort of person not even to consider this in your enquiries. They HAVE explored other options and quite extensively. The case is still very much open.

What did that mean, I guess they can see if she's posted on Mumsnet, for example or sought help/advice, personal deleted messages?

I think that’s why PA has been keeping it from people because he wants it to be investigated without bias

aye, which is why it was the first thing he told them when they walked through the door.

some of these suggestions don’t even make sense

She'd need to have got cash with her etc, agree seems very unlikely, unfortunately.

And the national crime agency have looked over it and said they’ve done everything they should and borrowed resources from a neighbouring force.

Given they had divers, thermal imaging, drones, dogs and hid knows what else there within hours, have gone through CCTV for the exits that are covered (all but one) tracked down people on that CCTV who may have seen something, are following up hundreds of pieces of information reported to them and have identified 700 cars passing the remaining CCTV blind spot who they have written to asking them for dashcam footage I’m not quite sure what more the ‘experts’ on here wanted. There’s a big difference between absence of evidence when you aren’t looking for any and searching for evidence of an attacker or abductor and not finding it.

There’s an absolutely huge number of resources that have gone into looking for Nicola. (As there should be) but sometimes the fact is that people do just vanish and there isn’t an end or an answer. Real life isn’t a TV drama.

@RosesareBlooming Yet here you are 🤔

Exactly this.

@User435787532 well said

If you truly believe the police released Nicola's personal information today to satisfy those speculating online you're very, very naive

Not to 'satisfy' speculators. To try and stop them. It's causing additional pain to her loved ones. The speculation that leads to reports to the police is taking up needless time.

There's no naivety. The endless ghoulish speculation is what forced the police to reveal information they would not normally share.

Compared to what?

“On average 400 people drown in the UK each year and a further 200 people take their own lives on our waters.”

12 people a week - 4 of which are suicides. Since NB has been missing nearly another 36 have drowned and 12 will have taken their lives by drowning.

Why couldn’t she be one of these either an accident or intentional? It’s statistically much more likely than her being abducted.

www.nationalwatersafety.org.uk/media/1005/uk-drowning-prevention-strategy.pdf

I am finding it very odd that there is the demand for an open mind by police but on here some posters seem unable to hold all possibilities at once each with associated specific probability and risk.

A hypothetical situation as I have quantified in my most recent post.

Information in medical records can be used to support a narrative because it rarely details context.

I wouldn't like it if I told my GP I was suffering from menopause side effects, which may cause me to drink a bit more than normal, for me to then be labelled as an unstable, menopausal, alcoholic woman.

Yes. They are doing a job. Using huge resources. Idiots with no clue have castigated them, accused them of not investigating properly, and refused to listen to anyone who said, often from experience, that they'd know more than they were releasing publicly.

Will heat seeking equipment work several hours after someone has been in cold water?

If she had fallen into the river because she was 'blind drunk' then she must have necked a significant amount in a relatively short space of time. Presumably if she had been intoxicated before taking the children to school, her partner would have intervened and taken over.

I just don't think that this should have been made public. That said, it just goes to show how people with drink dependency can function very well and hide any issues extremely well. It said that her issues had resurfaced in recent months suggesting previous issues. The picture that we're getting though still makes no sense. She clearly wasn't drunk at the time. If her mental health was poor, her actions don't indicate it. However, they surely would have said that she was vulnerable due to her mental state. They've not really said that either. I'm not sure that it changes anything, although I do now have less respect for the police for releasing this. I still believe that she has fallen into the river somehow.

CyberSpaceTraveller
So again, if we are to believe that Nicola has 'significant issues with alcohol' that may be related to her disappearance, who's buying her booze?

What? That’s such a weird question. She’s an employed financially independent woman. I’m sure she is perfectly capable of buying her own booze.

i buy the booze in this house, I order both with the shopping or a case of wine for delivery when we run out. Neither of us has alcohol issues. But even if we did, we’d still be capable of buying booze and wouldn’t need someone to do it for us.

@Activelyannoyed

How was it a weird question? I was obviously responding to the PP about Nicola HIDING herself away.

You would assume the police would know if her bank accounts had been used and as they have stated they were given information that she has had significant issues with alcohol which they are relating to her disappearance, she'd need to buy it or get someone else to?

If it's spirits she drinks,they're not cheap and it's been almost 3 weeks now. She doesn't strike me as woman who's tipple is a can of cheap cider.

Maybe she had a couple of crates of vodka stashed under her coat to keep her going so she could hole up as she couldn't go out while a massive police search and unprecedented media interest for a missing person was going on?

They would probably have asked and most people would tell the truth, especially if there had been a date earlier that month that the police attended the house.

Absolutely this. I'd love to hear Nicola's side of the story..

Was it not PA who provided the initial and immediate info which contributed to the risk evaluation that the police reached?

If she was deemed high risk - surely that was in her favour as emergency SAR was deployed immediately and extensively?

If she was abducted/murdered/injured at the river - then the helicopter and SAR teams on the ground would double up in this effort.

Does anyone have any idea as to why the police would have been called to their house a few days earlier? Makes no sense to me!

And it doesn't need to. It's not your business.

They are doing a job.
A bad job.