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lemmein · 2023-02-15T19:14:48+00:00

Fuck it, I'm opening another one. If the mods delete it fair enough. I don't believe the menopause or even alcoholism explains a woman vanishing into thin air with no evidence left behind. This whole case stinks!

Goldpaw · 15/02/2023 22:31

Just watched this from TalkTV. The Head of Comms at Lancs Constabulary has said mistakes have been made and that they would "have to learn from...mistakes" (oh, haven't we heard that countless times before!). It's not just us "ghouls" that are saying this!

And Mark Thomas-Williams says that they made a mistake stating the belief was she went into the river because it's meant that if she has taken herself off somewhere people will have been less inclined to look out for her. They should have left all hypotheses open.

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scottishclive · 15/02/2023 22:32

Peverellshire · 15/02/2023 22:26

We can practically rule out suicide in the river that’s been extensively searched to date,

I think Nicola was extremely smart too…

This is fanning the flames, but the police also mentioned they control her SM and hence they may appear active. Perhaps that is to cover in case the think she might still be alive and reconnect.

Rempf · 15/02/2023 22:33

Amethystanddiamonds · 15/02/2023 22:27

@Rempf I don't know if she's in the river or not. I don't have the evidence to make any decision because I'm not a police officer.

What I do know is there are lots of untrue things being said about people with alcohol misuse. I think people still have this image of the council estate drunk, whilst completely ignoring the middle class alcohol issues that are a massive problem in this country.

Alcohol misuse effects all levels of society and in starkly different ways- no question.
I dont see it being a defining factor in this particular case.
None of us know the truth- I hope the family get the outcome we all hoping for and she has taken a pause in her life

Chocolated · 15/02/2023 22:34

Activelyannoyed · 15/02/2023 22:29

I don’t get the message that fhe police are saying if you are menopausal or have issues with alcohol we won’t help or search for you and I think this is rather unfair.

They were in the water immediately, had the dogs and divers out, and had the helicopters out as soon as it was dark. They are now explaining everything else done. A lot of the speculation was clearly wrong. There was a shit ton being done.

I’m bemused anyone can listen to everything done now and say well what they are saying is they won’t investigate properly, fine before, but they’ve just detailed a lot of a stuff and an exhaustive investigation.

I don’t understand what’s happened here. I don’t understand why such s senior officer was put in charge of something like this, I don’t understand why given the information the police have now released , Paul and Emma have been giving it everything was wonderful and she’d never leave, someone has done something to her, comdeming the police, encouraging the public. Whilst also immediately telling the police about what appears to be very significant risk factors, knowing the extent of the investigation, having liaison officers there daily with them. I don’t understand why she can’t be found.

the last few weeks have been hard for her they said, we know she stopped posting on face book in December, the police were called with health workers in Jan, maybe a crisis team, her Fitbit hadn’t been synced since the previous Tuesday, she stopped using her strava awhile ago.

where is she, no one knows. On balance on thinking about it, I think this is likely there is no third party involved. I hope she will turn up one day, and get any help she needs.

I don't think people are saying that the police won't help , it's more that it appears they got the alcohol and menopause issues in their head and therefore decided that the main option was that she was in the river , rather than being equally focussed on the various scenarios that could have happened

CyberSpaceTraveller · 15/02/2023 22:37

BornFreeButinChains · 15/02/2023 22:28

Suicide was always an option and however she got into that waters, intentionally or not so being menapausal etc makes no difference.

Hiding herself away is another matter

So again, if we are to believe that Nicola has 'significant issues with alcohol' that may be related to her disappearance, who's buying her booze?

Chocolated · 15/02/2023 22:39

I suspect there may be further questions around the previous incident. Who called the police? Why was there a welfare office attending? Was a referral made anywhere for support?

Activelyannoyed · 15/02/2023 22:41

CyberSpaceTraveller · 15/02/2023 22:37

So again, if we are to believe that Nicola has 'significant issues with alcohol' that may be related to her disappearance, who's buying her booze?

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What? That’s such a weird question. She’s an employed financially independent woman. I’m sure she is perfectly capable of buying her own booze.

i buy the booze in this house, I order both with the shopping or a case of wine for delivery when we run out. Neither of us has alcohol issues. But even if we did, we’d still be capable of buying booze and wouldn’t need someone to do it for us.

MissWings · 15/02/2023 22:41

@Chocolated

Hmm, I know if a person has had the crisis team out to their address, and then said person then goes missing it would be incredibly neglectful NOT to consider their MH. Unfortunately the police can't win at times.

schloss · 15/02/2023 22:41

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Activelyannoyed · 15/02/2023 22:43

Chocolated · 15/02/2023 22:39

I suspect there may be further questions around the previous incident. Who called the police? Why was there a welfare office attending? Was a referral made anywhere for support?

That is really none of our business and goes too far. No one is entitled to every inch of this woman’s life.

MissWings · 15/02/2023 22:43

@schloss

Great narrative but last time I heard, police don't attend your address to give you an over 40s check.

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This is just made up shit.

RosesareBlooming · 15/02/2023 22:45

So the police say that there have been numerous speculations and theories and even people threatening others and this has DETRACTED from the case. Yet the conspiracy theorists continue. Obviously they know better than trained detectives. Obviously, without their help the police are lost. Due to speculation the police searched an abandoned building 3 times and found nothing each time...well the conspiracy theorists thought she was there didn't they.

Anyway mumsnet obsessives going over and over and over what they 'think'. Meanwhile the police thought they have to release some personal information since the online lot make things up anyway so have to counteract it.... own goal and very unhelpful

schloss · 15/02/2023 22:45

Activelyannoyed · 15/02/2023 22:43

That is really none of our business and goes too far. No one is entitled to every inch of this woman’s life.

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Police access medical records I stated in my post not the police do the over 40's check !

Goldpaw · 15/02/2023 22:47

Another interview, this time with Peter Bleksley.

"It's been a catastrophe from start to finish." "Virtually at every turn they've got it wrong."

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TrentCrimmTheIndependent · 15/02/2023 22:47

I really don't think that the police are writing her off as a suicidal, menopausal lush.

I think, or at least hope, that they are trying to say that they have very good reasons (that they haven't and won't release) to think that she has disappeared of her own accord and not due to a third party.

If anything, I think they're trying to protect Nicola a little bit, by saying she's had issues in the past, and now, due to meno (which let's face it, is a bloody good reason for any of us to lose our MH) she's been having difficulty managing it again.

And, if there was a recent incident where 'no one has been arrested', there could be the small possibility that someone WAS facing charges, and that might have been enough to break the camels back.

AlwaysWrongAndNeverRight · 15/02/2023 22:48

i buy the booze in this house, I order both with the shopping or a case of wine for delivery when we run out. Neither of us has alcohol issues. But even if we did, we’d still be capable of buying booze and wouldn’t need someone to do it for us.

I thought that question of who is buying her booze was in regard to the suggestion of Nicola was hiding away and not wanting to be found scenario. She wouldn't be popping to the shops or using her debit card for an online shop.

EarringsandLipstick · 15/02/2023 22:48

No one is entitled to every inch of this woman’s life.

Exactly this.

The poor woman. And her family. I feel very sorry for the police here too.

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lemmein · 15/02/2023 22:49

Anyway mumsnet obsessives going over and over and over what they 'think'. Meanwhile the police thought they have to release some personal information since the online lot make things up anyway so have to counteract it.... own goal and very unhelpful

If you truly believe the police released Nicola's personal information today to satisfy those speculating online you're very, very naive.

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MissWings · 15/02/2023 22:49

@schloss

What are you even talking about? IF the crisis team attended her address very shortly before she went missing (and it is highly likely they did along with the police) they are obviously going to consider her mental health when she then becomes a missing person. They did not discredit other avenues based on her mental health alone as obviously she still may have been abducted etc. To not even consider her MH being a factor in this is a bit ridiculous in all honesty.

RosesareBlooming · 15/02/2023 22:49

Movinghouseatlast · 15/02/2023 19:20

They had to in order to stop all the speculation. They seem to be damned if they do and damned if they don't. They are criticised for not doing enough and for doing too much compared to other missing people.

It absolutely explains why the search started so early and why they assumed she was in the water.

Poor, poor woman whatever has happened. The struggles with menopause are still not taken seriously enough.

Yep, so many people speculating. On all these threads so much rubbish and speculation. People mawkishly going over and over the details - obsessively so. Odd.

RosesareBlooming · 15/02/2023 22:50

EarringsandLipstick · 15/02/2023 22:48

No one is entitled to every inch of this woman’s life.

Exactly this.

The poor woman. And her family. I feel very sorry for the police here too.

I agree. The weird ones on here writing about her and creating endless threads.

Goldpaw · 15/02/2023 22:51

I feel very sorry for the police here too.

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schloss · 15/02/2023 22:53

Activelyannoyed · 15/02/2023 22:44

This is just made up shit.

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It is an opinion of what can happen from details in medical records saying one thing (woman suffering from menopause and drinks a little more than normal - probably the same with many women) and then being misconstrued to become something totally different.

A woman is missing that is the only facts everyone can be certain of, time will tell if her drinking and being in menopause have any true impact on what happened, yet the actions today have changed the narrative and deflected the criticism of Lancs police. The media will now always refer to NB as an alcoholic and menopausal woman.

What is written on peoples medical records would come as a shock to some - telling a GP you drink slighly more than the suggested units per week, can be used against you.

Chocolated · 15/02/2023 22:53

@Activelyannoyed I didn't say it was our business, I only said that I imagined more questions would come out of it

You need to calm down