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lemmein · 2023-02-15T19:14:48+00:00

Fuck it, I'm opening another one. If the mods delete it fair enough. I don't believe the menopause or even alcoholism explains a woman vanishing into thin air with no evidence left behind. This whole case stinks!

01R019 · 15/02/2023 20:44

And like, so what? Are we all supposed to say ah OK, that's OK then she had a drink/menopause/mental health issue

that's alright no need to talk about her anymore?

I just don't see how disclosing this information is relevant or any of our business. It certainly has no baring on my main hypothesis.

Namechangedforthis234 · 15/02/2023 20:45

I think they released the information because of the amount of public criticism about the police investigation, and because of lunatics travelling to the area and trespassing/harrasing local people. They probably hope the update will calm down all of the finger pointing towards Paul and the police, the caravan park etc...

I still find it suspicious that she didn't log out of her teams meeting and that the dog was running loose, so I'm not sure what to think. I just really hope there isn't an influx now of negative comments about Nicola. If she has left of her own accord it must feel impossible to come back. Maybe the police are hoping if she reads lots of supportive comments, or if people just stop talking about her so much it will be easier to return.

MegaManic · 15/02/2023 20:45

I don't know why people keep sharing the comments from people on twitter. None of them know Nicola, none of them have any idea what happened in the investigation, none of them know why this information was released but they are too busy jumping on the bandwagon to care.
I also don't know any of this stuff so maybe the police have been totally incompetent but until we know what happened how can anyone tell.

ofwarren · 15/02/2023 20:46

twitter.com/aliciakearns/status/1625934789856436225?t=K4wHOu104FXc1cC48YRbmQ&s=19

Alicia Kearns MP
"I am deeply uncomfortable with the police releasing Nicola Bulley's so-called "vulnerabilities" on menopause & alcohol.

I struggle to ascertain how this will assist Police in their search & investigations.

I do see how it would assist those wishing to victim-blame or diminish."

confounded234 · 15/02/2023 20:46

MegaManic · 15/02/2023 20:45

I don't know why people keep sharing the comments from people on twitter. None of them know Nicola, none of them have any idea what happened in the investigation, none of them know why this information was released but they are too busy jumping on the bandwagon to care.
I also don't know any of this stuff so maybe the police have been totally incompetent but until we know what happened how can anyone tell.

It's either incompetence or a long game of slowly slowly catches Monkey.... It's impossible to tell at the moment though

MegaManic · 15/02/2023 20:48

@ofwarren do you think your argument has more legitimacy because some MP's who have no idea what is really happened have said so! It's fashionable to criticise the police so they are jumping on the bandwagon. Ultimately only time will tell if they are wrong or right.

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lemmein · 15/02/2023 20:48

I also don't know any of this stuff so maybe the police have been totally incompetent

It's taken them 19 days to access her Facebook.

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Amethystanddiamonds · 15/02/2023 20:49

For all of you saying if she took the kids to school she wasn't drunk. You haven't lived with a functioning alcoholic. Not only will they drive their kids to school well over the drink drive limit, they can hold down very responsible, reputable jobs all with a bottle of whisky under their desk. Alcohol withdrawal was often more a problem I found - depressive episodes, shakes, passing out, etc. Only the partner and kids really know what's happening in a home with a functioning alcoholic.

I don't think the police are victim blaming. Menopause is known to cause mental health issues. Plus potential alcohol use really does make someone vulnerable. These are just facts.

Peverellshire · 15/02/2023 20:49

Merkins · 15/02/2023 20:30

To avoid his account being found by abusive morons, I suspect.

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For a man who understands tech etc, it was totally findable and wasn't an effective way of hiding his account. It was also an 'interesting' choice of name. Of course, it's a perfectly free country and he can do as he pleases, but as a cloaking device it's a fail.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 15/02/2023 20:49

Thank you for the new thread
For me though, nothing explains why she has not been found
Walking a familiar route, which just happens to have a river run through it, it does not mean she has ended up in it
Even with the vulnerabilities which were the reason for high risk status, the river has been searched many times now and I don't think she went in, well certainly not by the bench and to vanish within a 10 minute window is baffling.
My heart aches for her family

confounded234 · 15/02/2023 20:49

lemmein · 15/02/2023 20:48

I also don't know any of this stuff so maybe the police have been totally incompetent

It's taken them 19 days to access her Facebook.

is it a coincidence that it is today that personal photos of her drinking have "emerged"?

MegaManic · 15/02/2023 20:49

lemmein · 15/02/2023 20:48

I also don't know any of this stuff so maybe the police have been totally incompetent

It's taken them 19 days to access her Facebook.

How do you know this as a fact - are you part of the investigation?
Is this coming from the same place as the 'facts' around the derelict house?

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lemmein · 15/02/2023 20:50

How do you know this as a fact - are you part of the investigation?
Is this coming from the same place as the 'facts' around the derelict house?

They said so in the press conference! 🙄

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MissVantaBlack · 15/02/2023 20:51

Grasping at straws here, but could she have checked herself into hospital for rehab? She would therefore be unaware of the anguish surrounding her disappearance (alcohol detox is brutal - hallucinations etc), and perhaps the hospital staff are unable to inform police or her family that she's an inpatient, due to patient confidentiality.

JaneJeffer · 15/02/2023 20:52

TokyoSushi · 15/02/2023 20:29

I'm not sure I've ever known an investigation like this one, it seems to have gone completely out of control. Poor Nicola.

Yes totally mismanaged by the police.

Peverellshire · 15/02/2023 20:52

pigsinoodies · 15/02/2023 20:44

But he'd decided she wasn't in the river before he'd ever spoken to the family or police. And even after searching he's been adamant that if she'd been below the weir the body would have sunk to the bottom and it would have moved very little due to the ebb and flow of the tide.

So where is he suggesting that she went in that would have made any difference? Miles away? Why not drive there if you're actually going to commit suicide? Why not take the dog and leave it at the real scene? What possible reason is there to set up a fake suicide at the bench before really doing it elsewhere?

The whole scenario is nonsensical but not as nonsensical as PF's ridiculous backtracking

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Possibly, because she wanted to spare her family from the truth and look as if she'd met with an accident or something else had happened, she didn't imagine all the focus and attention on the river.

TokyoSushi · 15/02/2023 20:52

Just watching the replay of the press conference now, not sure what to think yet.

MegaManic · 15/02/2023 20:53

Amethystanddiamonds · 15/02/2023 20:49

For all of you saying if she took the kids to school she wasn't drunk. You haven't lived with a functioning alcoholic. Not only will they drive their kids to school well over the drink drive limit, they can hold down very responsible, reputable jobs all with a bottle of whisky under their desk. Alcohol withdrawal was often more a problem I found - depressive episodes, shakes, passing out, etc. Only the partner and kids really know what's happening in a home with a functioning alcoholic.

I don't think the police are victim blaming. Menopause is known to cause mental health issues. Plus potential alcohol use really does make someone vulnerable. These are just facts.

Totally agree, most people on here have no idea what it is like to live with an alcoholic parent. Again I have no idea if that is the case here and I'm not saying it is but to those reaching conclusions based on how things appeared to other people you are just plain wrong.

Peverellshire · 15/02/2023 20:53

MissVantaBlack · 15/02/2023 20:51

Grasping at straws here, but could she have checked herself into hospital for rehab? She would therefore be unaware of the anguish surrounding her disappearance (alcohol detox is brutal - hallucinations etc), and perhaps the hospital staff are unable to inform police or her family that she's an inpatient, due to patient confidentiality.

Guessing they've checked but otherwise very plausible, especially as I wonder at a stint a while ago, so she might be familiar.

schloss · 15/02/2023 20:54

pigsinoodies · 15/02/2023 20:44

But he'd decided she wasn't in the river before he'd ever spoken to the family or police. And even after searching he's been adamant that if she'd been below the weir the body would have sunk to the bottom and it would have moved very little due to the ebb and flow of the tide.

So where is he suggesting that she went in that would have made any difference? Miles away? Why not drive there if you're actually going to commit suicide? Why not take the dog and leave it at the real scene? What possible reason is there to set up a fake suicide at the bench before really doing it elsewhere?

The whole scenario is nonsensical but not as nonsensical as PF's ridiculous backtracking

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I do not think our opinions of the PF involvement will ever tally!

In answer to you points - with the information PF had at the time, his belief is there was not a body to be found in the river. That was his professional initial opinion. It appears following some passing of information or conversations with other dive teams from the police, some further details were given to him, which led him to conduct the search he did. His opinion may not have changed, we do not know, but he did conduct a search which, as I said previously, seems to have been directed by Lancs police. I expect his former opinion at that point had not changed.

Moving on to the information provided today, isn't PF saying had he had that detail initially his opinion may have been different and a search conducted in a different way.

With any investigation, in whatever industry, new or changed information or level of detail can change one's opinion. I do not see PF's statement as backtracking, but an acceptance of he may have acted differently if he had known then what he knows now?

davegrohll · 15/02/2023 20:55

Like a lot of people I'm shocked. Don't know why they felt the need to mention menopause or the fact she had a welfare visit ! Wtf has that got to do with anything ?? They're just making out she's got issues so therefore she must be in the River, disgusting

Suzi888 · 15/02/2023 20:56

“Why are people pretending there’s not huge focus on how menopause is ruining some women’s lives and mental health?”

Is it really ruining so many lives that women are disappearing in the space of ten minutes as a result? (no).

@Bellalalala I am not disputing menopause is a bitch. I just don’t for the life of me understand why the police have felt the need to tell the public. The whole narrative has now changed to ahhh she was menopausal and unstable.. add salacious photo of her drinking. If you can’t see the issue then I give up, you’re entitled to your opinion, as am I.

I am happy to see there is outrage over this being released. Clearly I am not alone.

Goldpaw · 15/02/2023 20:56

lemmein · 15/02/2023 20:48

I also don't know any of this stuff so maybe the police have been totally incompetent

It's taken them 19 days to access her Facebook.

Yes, I was a bit taken aback that they're only just looking at that!

SilverGlitterBaubles · 15/02/2023 20:56

MissVantaBlack · 15/02/2023 20:51

Grasping at straws here, but could she have checked herself into hospital for rehab? She would therefore be unaware of the anguish surrounding her disappearance (alcohol detox is brutal - hallucinations etc), and perhaps the hospital staff are unable to inform police or her family that she's an inpatient, due to patient confidentiality.

I think police would have checked the hospitals as a matter of course and I doubt patient confidentiality would apply in the case of a missing persons investigation.

Eatentoomanyroses · 15/02/2023 20:57

This is such a shit show I can’t believe it. I was at part of that river today. I stared at it a good long while thinking of her. I can’t understand how if she did go into it why they didn’t find her. It’s not fast flowing. Now the police are saying she’s menopausal and had problems with alcohol. How awful for them to say these things about her. Lots of people have these struggles. It doesn’t mean she’d throw herself into a river. Women are always being touted as crazy.