Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 7

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The chat appears to have gone quiet today after the last thread filled up, so I'm making a new one for anyone who wants to come together whilst we all hold our breath hoping for a good outcome.

That’s a good and thoughtful interview by Nicola’s neighbour. She does seem to be such a lovely person. If there was any way she could turn up unharmed it would be amazing but hard to envisage.

Neither you nor he are party to the whole story. Accusing the Police of anything is premature before we know all the facts.

I cannot believe how many people on these threads think they know better than the Police on the ground and have "solved" the case already - it certainly explains a lot about how things do and don't get done in this country.

It's natural to care about the case - but there really is no point in speculation on the basis of limited knowledge and in many cases, hearsay.

All inappropriate replies are reported, MNHQ rightfully have an eye on moderation and the majority of posters are just trying to process the events, lots are local and understandably very concerned

Quite right; nevertheless it's interesting to see the difference in approach about this missing individual and a previous one whose name can't be mentioned on here ... if I just mention Portugal and leave out names I imagine you'll get the gist

It's extremely ghoulish, and distasteful. I'll be interested to find out the actual facts (if we ever do), some random Inspector Morse of the Internet isn't just ghoulish, it's potentially harmful to the actual investigation and to the family.

Her parents response on the first televised interview was " she's been taken" It was her daily dog walking route nothing out of the ordinary and after this time, I'm inclined to agree with them.
The police are now extending their searches to the outbuildings which imo should have been done sooner
Hopefully there will be clues
My heart aches for them all

@Neededanewuserhandle I don't think it's so much knowing better than the police, rather frustrated at the way it's been handled. I think it's telling though, how much alot of us have lost faith in the police over the years. I didn't realise just how much I had until now. I also feel that Essex police or the Met would have dealt with this very differently.

'Agree with every word you say, Sadie. Have reported a couple of these threads, only to be met with weasel words from Mumsnet justifying this ghoul-fest.'

'Ghoul fest'. That in itself is a really inappropriate thing to say. There is nothing 'ghoul' like about this situation, it is a high profile, distressing case. Could be anyone of us, or our family or friends. The police are not instilling trust or confidence and seem a bit chaotic. As has been said no fingertip searches of surrounding areas for starters.

You don't get to tell women to be quiet. Women are targeted and attacked all the tiime and this nonsense about no third party involvement due to no evidence is really concerning. Treat it like there is a third party until proven otherwise .

But because you don't know the full story, you don't know why the Police have done things in a particular way - incompetence is a possible reason, but it's not the only one and it's really unfair to claim you know when you cannot.

I am generally very late to defend Police.
I am sure there will be a review and if they found wanting, people should receive appropriate action including being fired.
It's just that I think it's premature to judge yet.
No-one is telling anyone to shut up.

@Neededanewuserhandle I don't think people realise how good it is that she hasn't just fallen into another missing person, and forgotten about. The family are saying the same as the majority are on here. Paul said himself on the interview. They want it talked about. There's a saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity as long as it stays in the public interest, the more the police are held accountable the more people think about that morning and what they saw or didnt see more of a chance they'll find a clue or her.

I often think of the two black sisters who were murdered recently in a London park, where the police were charged with sending pictures via WhatsApp. That case got some exposure but nothing in comparison to this. A very sad state of affairs.

'I cannot believe how many people on these threads think they know better than the Police on the ground and have "solved" the case already'

Because the police are sadly often shit. For example Tia Sharp's body was found in a loft despite the fact the property was already search 3 times. Time and time again they cock up.

So it is not unreasonable for people to question what they are doing.

It's sickening that this ingrained judgement still happens. It was this type of misogyny that helped peter Sutcliffe escape justice for so long, contributing to the death of more women.

And of course. I hope they actually do know something. I don't think we as the public have the right to know everything but like I've said previously, they shouldn't have made the statement about what they think is likely to have happened as its caused them alot of backlash and public frustration, and by the sounds of it family too. They could have just kept it minimal to we are looking into every aspect until we know for sure what happened.

'often think of the two black sisters who were murdered recently in a London park, where the police were charged with sending pictures via WhatsApp. That case got some exposure but nothing in comparison to this. A very sad state of affairs.'

They were sadly found the next morning weren't they? I would guess if they'd both vanished on a dog walk mysteriously leaving a phone behind and a distressed dog there'd have been the same level of concern.

OMG, I can't believe you're still here. Pretending that you just drifted on to this thread eh because it was active (yeah right) and then you said you were heading off BUT here you are 2 hrs on still being the thorn in everyone's side! We live in a democracy dear. You can only control yourself not other people.

When a SI comes to a press conference and gives out incorrect information then there is some level of incompetence involved. When the police say they're investigating dashcams on Garstang Lane and you've been in the vicinity of what you know to be Blackpool Lane then you may not connect the two and something valuable may be lost because you don't come forward.

Their dogged insistance they she went into the river has been criticised because, like a former detective has said, it can stop people coming forward with what might be valuable information. Yes they've said they're looking at every possibility and that may well be the case, but when you're communicating that you believe she's in the river, there will be people out there who then discount something or someone they saw half a mile away because of what you've said.

Their comms has been terrible.

@Goldpaw agreed

However they died a terrible death by a random nutter whereas granted if it were two white sisters, would have received more exposure. It was very local to me hence closer to home mentally. I remember saying to friends why isn't this case on the front page everywhere. Certainly this is a terrible case, it's just they all are.

If she has been taken what are the chances shes still alive, especially with all the coverage. The police just seem so slow to do anything about it, hopefully there's more we don't know because it seems like they almost don't care enough to explore other avenues other than the river.

I feel so much for her poor girls, and her partner, especially with all the accusations he's getting, I thought he looked 'out of it' behind the eyes on the few clips of his interview I saw, almost like he was medicated, not that I'm judging, I think id want to be medicated too, I can't imagine how hard it must be to live through something so traumatic whilst having to remain strong for your children.

I'm not pretending anything and don't call me "dear" - talk about bloody patronising. Democracy works more than one way and if you have freedom of speech then so do I.

Statistics show about 180,000 people go missing in the UK every year. The number is believed to be a significant underestimate as 353,000 files of missing persons are opened every year. A majority of the missing persons comprise children, but 80% of them are found within 24 hours of filing a missing persons report

worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/missing-persons-statistics-by-country

I wonder about the remaining 20% - how many are found more than 24 hours later, how many are never found, and how many have been a victim of crime?

Because in that case the parents were and are notoriously litigious

@Leizal I honestly wouldn't waste your time like I did. This poster doesn't want to contribute she wants to Internet version of gaup and us apparently gauping.

And I'm not a "thorn in everyone's side", plenty people actually agree with me.

As for "still hanging around"; firstly, I can hang around where the hell I like; secondly, the fact that I posted and people respond/quote/tag does mean I'm now getting notifications. Yep, I don't have to keep coming back but I've said what I think now and nobody has come up with anything to significantly alter my opinion, so I shan't continue.