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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 7

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LoveMAFS · 11/02/2023 16:42

The chat appears to have gone quiet today after the last thread filled up, so I'm making a new one for anyone who wants to come together whilst we all hold our breath hoping for a good outcome.

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ItsaStupidSillyThing · 12/02/2023 14:55

It could be from absolutely anything, probably just the worst timing. Hope the poor bloke gets some answers soon, must be horrendous, can't even imagine.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 14:57

@Jourdain11 if you're interested in the thread, as it seems so because you're reading every comment. But you're not happy with the way the discussion is going, why don't you post what you would like talked about. And ignore the comments you don't like, like the majority of us do.

User435787532 · 12/02/2023 15:00

@ofwarren that map is really interesting, if accurate. I can see how the ‘working hypothesis’ is drowning, as it seems almost impossible for her to be taken, unless very carefully planned. Obviously it’s confidential to investigation but I really wonder about the cctv, if they are just looking at cars leaving between 9.10 and 11am for example? And how extensive the investigations are into people who live very locally. Really if all roads/ cars have been ruled out surely that’s the only alternative, which is why PA is saying search local buildings. Presumably they can’t without reasons for warrants which is agonising.

How often are abducted people found and it’s ‘only 1 mile from where they were last seen.’

Daisymaker · 12/02/2023 15:00

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 13:55

Discussion usually involves an exchange of views! Not just an echo-chamber with any dissenters being called trolls. Honestly, if it were my family or friend I would be so distraught for their situation to be discussed in this way. As pp, and I, previously said, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Again, as pp have said, some people may be interested in general discussion, expression of empathy, even points like the one made about water safety. I saw a news item about this and realised that I'm frighteningly clueless about river and canal safety, despite having kids and living very close to one! But people might click on this thread expecting to find that kind of discussion and - no.

Start your own thread then. You talk about discussion but you aren't here to discuss the thread topic , instead you are here to criticise, why do that?

Oliveandbay · 12/02/2023 15:03

@Eatentoomanyroses

I agree with you. As I said on a previous thread, due to her FB and walk route info all being public on her profile it would be easy for someone to stalk her and know when/where she would be. There are so many hideous stories in the press about male violence against women - I really hope this isn't another example.

TabithaTiger · 12/02/2023 15:04

I 100% don't think Paul or any of the family were involved. Think about it, why would they question the police belief that she must have fallen in the water? If you wanted to cover something up, surely the police saying she must have drowned would be the ideal outcome?

So far as I can see, there are 3 things that could have happened:

  1. Nicola feel into the river and her body has not yet been found
  2. Nicola has decided to leave her family and go off somewhere
  3. Nicola was abducted

I think 2 is highly unlikely. It's not impossible, but from what her family and friends have said, she was very happy and adored her children and dog. I know people can have things going on that no one knows about, but it just doesn't seem likely that a loving mum would just disappear of her own accord.

Goldpaw · 12/02/2023 15:06

From the retired Met detective:

A former Met detective who helped solve the Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry murders has criticised police looking for Nicola Bulley.

Simon Harding was an award-winning detective chief inspector in the Metropolitan Police until he retired in 2021, working on a number of high profile murders including the Sarah Everard case.

Mr Harding said Lancashire police should not have gone public with their theory that Ms Bulley fell into the River Wyre and drowned unless they were 100 per sure, as it may have deterred witnesses coming forward.

He also said they should not have ruled out third party involvement unless every inch of the place where she went missing was covered by CCTV footage.

He's absolutely right. Appalling comms decisions made by Lancs Constabulary.

RafaistheKingofClay · 12/02/2023 15:06

Needadoop · 12/02/2023 13:05

What horrid news that she's disappeared. Admittedly, I have not followed this case as closely as others, but it appears that she has either:

a) been abducted and is still alive
b) been adducted and has been murdered
c) left her family and is hiding at a friend's house in the local area
d) left her family and is with a lover at their house in the local area (or they have run off and are elsewhere in the UK, or abroad)
e) been involved in some premeditated plan that involves some people she knows whether or not that includes PA, any family members, or friends. What I mean by this is that they – I understand this is not a nice thing to speculate and the reason why I have placed it last, but still a possibility – are angling for some kind of monetary payout e.g. insurance

When I watched PA on TV the other night, I felt right away that although he wasn't lying, his tone was off. He seemed very confident in his body language and in control. There was a bit of leg cleansing, but overall he seemed very cooperative and open. There were no crocodile tears, etc. Since then his choice of words and the things he's said have been interesting in that 'people just do not vanish into thin air'; that he will 'never give up' looking for her. There has been a lot of emphasis by PA, family and friends on the two, beautiful girls who miss their Mummy.

Many have, unfortunately, commented on how he is involved because of his behaviour on the programme the other night. I believe his tone and behaviour might have seemed off to many because he did not act like a person whose partner is potentially dead. Perhaps this was because the police are confident that NB has simply left her family which leads me to think that outcomes C and D (above) are most likely.

The way her sister acted also concurs with this line of thought. The sister made some flippant comments that few people would say if their sibling was potentially dead. I think she said something like 'Oh bloody come home soon, will you?' Again, many picked up on how odd that sounded.

The way that PA believes someone in the village knows something or that he is confident she has not fallen into the river also concurs with the above line of thinking. He is basically sending her a message to say 'I know you're hiding with someone somewhere who is helping you, locally'.

If NB has simply left her family and needs some space that would absolutely be the best outcome. I hope she is well and alive. If that's what's happened, imagine how difficult it must be for her now? That's if she has gone into hiding with a friend or lover. It would be incredibly difficult for her to resurface and, if she is with a friend, how long is that friend going to be willing to live a lie to help NB?

We all need to be mindful that there could be a huge backlash towards NB, especially for leaving her children. If that's what's happened we must all be nothing but kind as fellow mums and dads. Kind and only kind. I hope she is found soon.

As the sibling of a missing person who went missing in water I think you might be way off the mark here. I’ve definitely made that comment Nicola’s sister made at some point. Along with many other thinks.

There’s no normal here. Everyone is different and reacts in different ways. Even within my own family there’s a huge range of normal.

User98866 · 12/02/2023 15:10

The tragic case of Leah Croucher springs to mind. She was found in a house less than a mile from where she lived. Police spent time trawling a body of water after sightings of her. I so hope this isn’t a similar case.

People finger pointing at PA makes no sense. If he was guilty why would he be publicly disagreeing with the polices most likely scenario which gets him off the hook entirely? Makes absolutely no sense.

Goldpaw · 12/02/2023 15:13

Apols, Simon Harding is a different detective to the one in The Independent. Yet another though sayibg Lancs Constab have got things wrong.

Link to Evening Standard article

Tidsleytiddy · 12/02/2023 15:14

melonraspberry · 12/02/2023 14:01

@Tidsleytiddy I sat in the trial of the second one to be arrested, it still sits with me, the feeling I had sitting behind him, of someone so utterly cold and devoid of emotion. And his wife in the gallery still supporting him. Chilling.

Oh really? How fascinatingly awful that must have been x

User435787532 · 12/02/2023 15:15

User98866 · 12/02/2023 15:10

The tragic case of Leah Croucher springs to mind. She was found in a house less than a mile from where she lived. Police spent time trawling a body of water after sightings of her. I so hope this isn’t a similar case.

People finger pointing at PA makes no sense. If he was guilty why would he be publicly disagreeing with the polices most likely scenario which gets him off the hook entirely? Makes absolutely no sense.

Exactly, and I fear it is re. Leah Croucher. Paul, when asked how he was, said he felt angry and frustrated. They just need answers but fear they may never get them.

JudgyMuch · 12/02/2023 15:15

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 14:18

I was naive when Sarah Everard happened. It didn't connect with me like this because it was at the other end of the country and was in the city.
With this case, Nicola could easily be me or one of the school mums I know. Even the clothes she was wearing are so typical of what the school mums wear here.
I've walked through those fields so many times and never felt unsafe. It feels like, if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. I know objectively, that was always true but in a place like this, it just didn't seem possible.

So it's all about "me", really? I suspect that's at the heart of all this "concern".

People can fall into water anywhere. Terrible things happen every day. People disappear every day. But because they apparently couldn't be us, they're not worthy of seven threads of round-and-round armchair sleuthing.

People ought to admit what they're actually doing here.

RenoDakota · 12/02/2023 15:16

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Agree with every word you say, Sadie. Have reported a couple of these threads, only to be met with weasel words from Mumsnet justifying this ghoul-fest.

Eatentoomanyroses · 12/02/2023 15:16

@Oliveandbay she did say on one of her fb posts that it felt ‘spooky’ or something there. Perhaps she’d picked up on something

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 15:17

twitter.com/IrishTimesWorld/status/1624787425229955072?t=l1F6xu12FJSX0vY9VphK-g&s=19

"Nicola Bulley search: Real detectives vie with amateur sleuths in Lancashire village

Locals, online commentators and the missing woman’s partner are sceptical of the police’s theory that the mother of two fell into the river Wyre"

Quite an interesting piece in The Irish Times. It contains information on local knowledge such as the 'tow path' being calling Stinking Woods due to the wild garlic that grows there.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 12/02/2023 15:18

It's a big news story; people naturally are concerned, sympathetic and intrigued. There is nothing ghoulish about puzzling over it.

I should think those who disapprove could skip the thread, rather than try to censor others.

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 15:19

What gets me is people saying "we HAVE to find out." It's very possible that no one will ever find out what happened. One of my best friends died in a freak incident many years ago (we were both 13/14). No one could ever prove whether it was an accident or intentional. It was horrendous for her parents, but they did come to accept that they would never know. And you have to find a way to live with that.

Some people treat this like a game of Cleudo.

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 15:23

metro.co.uk/2023/02/12/nicola-bulleys-next-door-neighbour-speaks-for-first-time-18269557/?ito=socialmetrouktwitter

The Metro
"Nicola Bulley’s next-door neighbour speaks for first time since mum disappeared"

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 15:24

So we have confirmation that Nicola HAS the car keys on her

plumduck · 12/02/2023 15:25

Some people treat this like a game of Cleudo.

Yeah or a TV show.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 15:29

@ofwarren I read somewhere certain car keys can be tracked. Don't quote me though

Blueflag22 · 12/02/2023 15:29

Eatentoomanyroses · 12/02/2023 15:16

@Oliveandbay she did say on one of her fb posts that it felt ‘spooky’ or something there. Perhaps she’d picked up on something

Or perhaps it was just a misty morning and loved spooky. I live in places that look spooky in misty weather and have taken photos to say so.

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 15:29

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 15:29

@ofwarren I read somewhere certain car keys can be tracked. Don't quote me though

Fingers crossed 🤞

Blueflag22 · 12/02/2023 15:31

Looked * not loved.

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