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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 7

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LoveMAFS · 11/02/2023 16:42

The chat appears to have gone quiet today after the last thread filled up, so I'm making a new one for anyone who wants to come together whilst we all hold our breath hoping for a good outcome.

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Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 12:31

@Peppepepper in my opinion, which is just that. I think the police shouldn't have issued any statement stating what they think likely happened. They would have been better off releasing a statement just saying they are looking into every aspect until they are sure what has happened. Now because it's seeming more likely to most people including the family that she isn't in the river (or wasn't initially) they now will have these kinds of requests.

Bluekerfuffle · 12/02/2023 12:32

Constantlybusy · 12/02/2023 12:25

Yes but even if it was my partner's turn and he knew I had a meeting at 9, he would offer to help out. He said he often had an hour to himself in the mornings as he starts work later. It would just be a considerate thing to do, in my opinion.

She may have regularly had these meetings and it was only one she had to listen in to by the sound of it. Who is to say she wasn’t perfectly happy to take the dog for a walk while listening in.

Bluebellwood129 · 12/02/2023 12:33

Peppepepper · 12/02/2023 12:24

No they absolutely do not! There is a real person at the centre of this, i think some people are forgetting that.

No one is forgetting anything. We're now on day 16 of the investigation. The communication strategy on this case has been shambolic - largely driven by errors made by Sally Riley herself. Public confidence has been lost and speculation is rife.

TrevTro · 12/02/2023 12:33

FeetupTvon · 12/02/2023 12:21

Genuine question… why don’t all people who have gone missing receive this publicity?

The fact a lot of people identify with her, just living normal life walking the dog, and the baffling elements like the teams call being connected and dog harness on the ground, broken CCTV, two little girls and a devoted partner waiting for news, it's gripped so many people.

Really hoping she's found.

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 12:36

placemats · 12/02/2023 12:24

So it seems likely now to be a murder investigation. On that note I am out.

It definitely sounds like they are following a lead doesn't it.
I can't work out where the horse woman lives. I think it's over wyre, possibly Hambleton.

Oaktree55 · 12/02/2023 12:39

FeetupTvon · 12/02/2023 12:21

Genuine question… why don’t all people who have gone missing receive this publicity?

I was thinking about this. I think there’s two elements firstly this happened near water so as standard search and rescue etc are mobilised fast (for everyone as far as I know they’re certainly out and about here a lot for vulnerable people missing).

Secondly it’s fed on from the interest in the case and the demand from Joe Public for information. This demand is probably greater as she’s attractive and it strikes a chord with many mums of her age as she went missing doing something they do every day. This demographic probably has more time to spend discussing etc.

TrevTro · 12/02/2023 12:39

Paul did say in the chat:

'I know that never in a million years would she leave Willow. Willow is like our third child.'

So it would make sense that she either got into trouble trying to help Willow and tragically drowned, or she left the area without wanting to (forced/taken.)

I suppose it's very doubtful, if she was killed, that the scene was anywhere by the bench there as the police have stated nothing has been found and surely there would be evidence?

But it just seems so highly unlikely someone took her, around 9.30am, without any witnesses, and left the phone and harness as a decoy. The level of planning and 'luck' involved to not be seen makes me feel that's impossible as well as unlikely.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 12:41

@Oaktree55 I honestly do not think it has anything to do with her looks. I personally wouldn't be more gripped by a certain story just because they happen to be good looking. Also, what is good looking to one person, isn't to another. So I just don't think that plays a factor. I may be naive.

Peppepepper · 12/02/2023 12:46

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 12:31

@Peppepepper in my opinion, which is just that. I think the police shouldn't have issued any statement stating what they think likely happened. They would have been better off releasing a statement just saying they are looking into every aspect until they are sure what has happened. Now because it's seeming more likely to most people including the family that she isn't in the river (or wasn't initially) they now will have these kinds of requests.

Speculation would be rife anyway, people are keen to air their views however unfounded and aren't thinking of the most important people in this at all, Nicola and her family. They have all along said they aren't discounting anything and are following all leads, it's not really their fault people are wilfully ignoring that.

Peppepepper · 12/02/2023 12:47

Bluebellwood129 · 12/02/2023 12:33

No one is forgetting anything. We're now on day 16 of the investigation. The communication strategy on this case has been shambolic - largely driven by errors made by Sally Riley herself. Public confidence has been lost and speculation is rife.

It has I agree, but not from the polices end. That's impressive you know the inner workings and can attribute direct errors to SR, assuming in that case you are internal to the investigation then please do report.

verystablegenius · 12/02/2023 12:49

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 12:41

@Oaktree55 I honestly do not think it has anything to do with her looks. I personally wouldn't be more gripped by a certain story just because they happen to be good looking. Also, what is good looking to one person, isn't to another. So I just don't think that plays a factor. I may be naive.

I think it helps that the case seems very “Middle England” but also that the clues are so intriguing

rainbowunicorn · 12/02/2023 12:49

MucozadeOnLucozade · 12/02/2023 11:29

If people are going to comment on this case, please at least spell her name right, it's Nicola, NOT NicHola!!!!

Thank you for saying this. It has been driving me mad too. Especially as some of the people doing it are so invested and have been on thread after thread posting. At least have enough respect for the poor woman and her family to spell her name correctly

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 12:51

@Peppepepper as the days went on and on. People grew more and more frustrated that their main hypothesis was the water. I understand they have to rule that out or in, but this has turned the attention negatively towards the police and like I said, they shouldn't have said anything about what they were thinking. They didn't have to and it hasn't done them any Favours. It frustrated people so much, individuals have taken it upon themself to search land in the village which could have been stopped before it happened if they didn't come across so close minded, even though they said they're not. It came across that they were.

Bluebellwood129 · 12/02/2023 12:53

Peppepepper · 12/02/2023 12:47

It has I agree, but not from the polices end. That's impressive you know the inner workings and can attribute direct errors to SR, assuming in that case you are internal to the investigation then please do report.

Yes - I can attribute errors in public communications directly to Sally Riley, with concrete evidence to support this. If I couldn't I wouldn't be making such statements in the public domain.

confounded234 · 12/02/2023 13:00

Pinkypie86 · 12/02/2023 12:24

Sadly because they're not attractive, white women.

And, that's the way it goes isn't it?

There is literally something called Missing White woman syndrome. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome

Peppepepper · 12/02/2023 13:03

Bluebellwood129 · 12/02/2023 12:53

Yes - I can attribute errors in public communications directly to Sally Riley, with concrete evidence to support this. If I couldn't I wouldn't be making such statements in the public domain.

Thought as much 😴

Needadoop · 12/02/2023 13:05

What horrid news that she's disappeared. Admittedly, I have not followed this case as closely as others, but it appears that she has either:

a) been abducted and is still alive
b) been adducted and has been murdered
c) left her family and is hiding at a friend's house in the local area
d) left her family and is with a lover at their house in the local area (or they have run off and are elsewhere in the UK, or abroad)
e) been involved in some premeditated plan that involves some people she knows whether or not that includes PA, any family members, or friends. What I mean by this is that they – I understand this is not a nice thing to speculate and the reason why I have placed it last, but still a possibility – are angling for some kind of monetary payout e.g. insurance

When I watched PA on TV the other night, I felt right away that although he wasn't lying, his tone was off. He seemed very confident in his body language and in control. There was a bit of leg cleansing, but overall he seemed very cooperative and open. There were no crocodile tears, etc. Since then his choice of words and the things he's said have been interesting in that 'people just do not vanish into thin air'; that he will 'never give up' looking for her. There has been a lot of emphasis by PA, family and friends on the two, beautiful girls who miss their Mummy.

Many have, unfortunately, commented on how he is involved because of his behaviour on the programme the other night. I believe his tone and behaviour might have seemed off to many because he did not act like a person whose partner is potentially dead. Perhaps this was because the police are confident that NB has simply left her family which leads me to think that outcomes C and D (above) are most likely.

The way her sister acted also concurs with this line of thought. The sister made some flippant comments that few people would say if their sibling was potentially dead. I think she said something like 'Oh bloody come home soon, will you?' Again, many picked up on how odd that sounded.

The way that PA believes someone in the village knows something or that he is confident she has not fallen into the river also concurs with the above line of thinking. He is basically sending her a message to say 'I know you're hiding with someone somewhere who is helping you, locally'.

If NB has simply left her family and needs some space that would absolutely be the best outcome. I hope she is well and alive. If that's what's happened, imagine how difficult it must be for her now? That's if she has gone into hiding with a friend or lover. It would be incredibly difficult for her to resurface and, if she is with a friend, how long is that friend going to be willing to live a lie to help NB?

We all need to be mindful that there could be a huge backlash towards NB, especially for leaving her children. If that's what's happened we must all be nothing but kind as fellow mums and dads. Kind and only kind. I hope she is found soon.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 13:05

@confounded234 oh wow! I'm definitely naive then. That's just awful for the majority who's face doesn't fit.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 13:07

@Peppepepper do you work for the police, has this been answered? You seem very protective and defensive. It's common knowledge mistakes can be made in ANY profession.

airfryerandelectricblanket · 12/02/2023 13:07

I don't understand why, if she was taken, people are saying the phone was left as a decoy.

Wouldn't it just be left because, whoever took her, simply wouldn't want her to have a phone she could ring out on, or that could be tracked?

FancyFanny · 12/02/2023 13:08

People love a mystery and if she fell in the water then it wouldn't be that interesting.

Her family and friends have absolutely no good reason to believe that something else happened to her. They don't know any more than the police do.

DingDonkey · 12/02/2023 13:09

airfryerandelectricblanket · 12/02/2023 13:07

I don't understand why, if she was taken, people are saying the phone was left as a decoy.

Wouldn't it just be left because, whoever took her, simply wouldn't want her to have a phone she could ring out on, or that could be tracked?

I think the alternative would be to throw the phone in the river.

Bluebellwood129 · 12/02/2023 13:10

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 13:07

@Peppepepper do you work for the police, has this been answered? You seem very protective and defensive. It's common knowledge mistakes can be made in ANY profession.

The reason Sally Riley has made errors has already been addressed previously and it's understandable, given her role on the investigation. However, the fact still stands that she has made mistakes when communicating with the public.

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 13:15

I clicked on this because it came up on 'active' and ended up reading a few pages in sort of... fascination.

It's so incredibly distasteful - all this speculation, obsessing over details, obliquely pointing the finger. I don't believe the police turned the investigation over to the public, and no doubt they have plenty of information that's not in the public domain. Information which will rule her partner out, for a start.

These kind of threads are genuinely quite unhealthy and just because one can discuss anything, it doesn't mean that you should. Surely...

Anyway, I'm fully aware that I've basically just come on and preached but I'm honestly too weirded out by this thread (and presumably 6 preceding it!) to pass on by. I'm really surprised it's allowed to stand, especially when (IIRC) the police have specifically asked people not to speculate and act as amateur sleuths.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 13:18

@Jourdain11 you have just speculated yourself. These comments are getting boring. Every single human since the dawn of time has discussed high profile cases which have been made public. Noone is attacking anyone (currently) we are allowed to talk about this.

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