Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

I've got a much bigger weir near me and everything gets stuck at the lip of it until we get really heavy flow on the river after storms etc.

If she'd drowned she could apparently only move along the river bed, so she'd presumably have hit the underwater face of the weir and stuck there.

It's just occurred to me that if she was dead before she hit the water she'd have presumably floated and moved much faster. That's moving into the realms of fantasy speculation though.

Why? Wouldn't it be a natural reaction?

so no. We don’t need to stop. We need to keep going. If you want it all to stop then hide the threads and move on. No one is asking you to read them, no one is asking for your opinion.

People can give their opinion though. I'm very interested in the case but some of the posts here are crazy. And I'm sure the people who take selfies or break into buildings also think they are just keeping the pressure on the police.

I don't think that's true. I very much hope that's not true.

Personally, I fully believed the police with their absolute certainty that there's no foul play.

Until you see that the police have said the exact same statement with other missing women, and they only open a criminal investigation once they've found a body that has evidently been murdered.

What a bunch of harpies you all are. Speculating and gossiping for 6 threads fgs.
This is a real family here.
Go away. Leave it alone. Hold your loved ones close and give thanks it's not you and your family.

The trouble is that what the family are saying and what the police are saying are diametrically opposed.

One side is either mistaken / refusing to admit the truth / actively skewing the truth.

Both sides can't be right.

And we simply don't know at this point what the truth is.

Her leaving a suicide note which the family don't want to accept is real but the police do, is at least as likely as some of the other crazed theories we've seen.

She must have either left the area forced by a third party or fallen in the river at some other location and gone to an area not yet searched, can't see any other possibilities at this point

agreed, or be in an area already searched, but missed in the search.

I agree…I think in alot of missing person cases, they know the person is suicidal and they know the likely end result.

In this case, I dont think they have any evidence to suggest suicide, which is why they are so set on the hypothesis she accidentally drowned. I know this may have been discussed (so please dont repeat if it has) but would the Fitbit be able to prove that? Hence they know that information without spelling it out to the public?

That police woman said it'd been examined but she didn't say what they saw on it

A lot of posters are local and understandably very worried for Nicola. The majority just want to talk the events through to process the awful situation. Primarily the thoughts are with her family and friends, there's just the odd insensitive poster.

I agree that talking it through & wanting answers to rationalise it is normal but some don't really care about Nicola, they are concerned about their own safety or just like the excitement & drama

. I agree , maybe if enough people keep talking about her and keep it a current topic they will keep looking. maybe. it is neither realistic nor reasonable that this level of resource be directed at this case indefinitely.

Social media is swamped with people trying to discuss it, make sense of it and keep it current and other people trying to get everyone to shut up, to silence them, to turn the other way and not look, not speak, not voice an opinion . But they click and read every word salivating.

the two sides will never agree, but if you truly believed we should all look away, you’d not be clicking on these threads, reading them and commenting.

Re: dog being ''Obedient'', Doesn't sound like it IS that well trained, if at all, as Nicola's friend said Nicola stopped taking a ball on walks as they dog was pestering too much , also read that the dog was causing issues with caravan park stock {Hens, Sheep &c} that does not point to a ''Trained'' dog.

My guess is she has fallen in .

I wonder if there was something that made her get near the edge - An animal or bird or something she thought was stuck or she could help .

I think she will be found but that river is tidal - she may be a way from where she went in .

I think the horrible theories are ghoulish and unhelpful.

The police would say if it were a murder enquiry or a suicide .

There's nothing to gain from them keeping that from the family or the public .

I am in police and have found many missing people. Sadly some aren't found alive and I've had experience of finding 2 in a river some time later than when they went missing .

One was mere hours but the other was months before being found . It's not that unusual .

My thoughts are with her family and friends and I hope she is found so they can lay her to rest and grieve .

The problem is that we live in an age where there is a potential answer (or a hundred versions) available immediately from your armchair. Therefore, it seems frustrating when there is no answer or no clues.
Two weeks is very long or very little time at all depending entirely upon your perspective. My aunt was missing for several months (and potentially dead for all we knew at the time).
While there is no news, there is still hope.

Someone having "difficulty" opening a gate. Quickly going over and helping them, dog running around and leaving your phone for a second whilst you do.

I can see it happening. Split second decision to run over the help the person. The person would not know she was on a teams call as phone could be on the bench on loud speaker.

That's hardly the point is it? SM is a fact of life and here to stay and as long as we don't live in a censored police state people will discuss cases like this, regardless of all the virtue signalling posts that are interspersed in threads like this.

The police need to learn to manage their cases and become social media savvy. There is a need to educate police forces on how SM works and so that they can tailor their communication to minimise speculations. The need to minimise controversy and communicate smartly and clearly.

I agree with the police fixated on the water and also her husband calling the police as soon as he knew she was missing it makes me think she is a high risk missing person.

If the police investigation were dramatically off would not every search and rescue expert and water expert be voicing their concern not just one man? I haven’t seen that backlash rather everything I read supports Police hypothesis re bodies taking time etc to be found.

This has been puzzling for me. If the phone was still connected to the teams call, is there a recording? What was the timeline for the call and the phone being left on the bench then found again?
Have looked for this in prev threads but not seen so far

Might just go in when it's warmer weather to cool down. ATM it's feckin freezing I would think twice myself before jumping in.

No one wants indefinite. We want long enough. We want to know that if someone has hurt this woman, then we didn’t turn the other way. That we kept her top of mind, long enough, because there are two little girls involved in this.

@RubyPip I don't understand your reply to my post. The police don't tend to look for foul play without a body or the absence of evidence of foul play. There may have been foul play, I don't know. I was simply saying some people prefer the drama of that option.

Could it be the case that she lost sight of Willow in the upper field where she was last seen, called her but nothing so panicked ran back to the bench area putting her phone down in a hurry and dropping the harness and started running up the side of the river looking in to see where Willow could be and she fell in much further downstream than expected from the bench -a few minutes or seconds after the timeline says her phone was detected back at the bench area at 9.20am , Willow may heard her calling and returned to the bench area but she had already gone.

@SueG60

You don't think it's logical.

It doesn't mean it isn't.

It's at least as likely as any other theory.