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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

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ofwarren · 09/02/2023 19:35

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

  1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

  1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

  1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

  1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

  1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

  1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

  1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

  1. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

  1. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

  1. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

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MissingMoominMamma · 09/02/2023 20:47

bluebutterfly2023 · 09/02/2023 20:44

I agree with the police fixated on the water and also her husband calling the police as soon as he knew she was missing it makes me think she is a high risk missing person.

If someone phoned my husband to say my dog had been left alone in our usual walking spot for over an hour, I suspect he would also call the police, as he knows there is no way I would leave him intentionally.

Her phone was also there, which would make him worry further- she’d been missing a while by then.

Crumpetdisappointment · 09/02/2023 20:47

if there was concern then they would tell the media she was vulnerable

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:47

That's hardly the point is it? SM is a fact of life and here to stay and as long as we don't live in a censored police state people will discuss cases like this, regardless of all the virtue signalling posts that are interspersed in threads like this.

Thing is I think there is a way to do it a respectful manner or not.

54isanopendoor · 09/02/2023 20:47

FlorasFluke · 09/02/2023 20:22

How can police better deal with cases that draw enormous attention from the public? I am thinking they need to consider the enormous force of social media (and MSM) and work with this. I feel we are witnessing a case that is actively being influenced (and possibly hindered or aided, who knows) by information, misinformation and gossip exchanged in real time. Cases like this aren't any longer between the police force and the communities and places they are dealing with but have the added element of social media.

This must transform police work completely, no? It has turned into an online VR game for many. It's quite frightening.

You make good points.
I was thinking about this due to a recent abduction of a child in my local area (now found thank goodness). I don't go on my local FB but it has been very active. I appreciate it can be a force for good (local communities coordinating searches etc) but it can also bring out the very worst in folk too.
How can speculation, which may hinder things / be harmful be reduced?
In particular, how can idiots like a person who goes to take a selfie at the site (wtf?) be prosecuted later to deter such fools from wasting time / contaminating scenes at the next site (as sadly there will be one). Is there a law that can be applied (later when there is time & energy for such matters)?

Activelyannoyed · 09/02/2023 20:48

Oaktree55 · 09/02/2023 20:44

If the police investigation were dramatically off would not every search and rescue expert and water expert be voicing their concern not just one man? I haven’t seen that backlash rather everything I read supports Police hypothesis re bodies taking time etc to be found.

It’s not just one man, multiple experts have now said she can’t be in the water. It’s all over the media. At least Google.

Activelyannoyed · 09/02/2023 20:49

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:47

That's hardly the point is it? SM is a fact of life and here to stay and as long as we don't live in a censored police state people will discuss cases like this, regardless of all the virtue signalling posts that are interspersed in threads like this.

Thing is I think there is a way to do it a respectful manner or not.

Everyone agrees, if you think anything on this or any site is disrespectful then report it. There are paid mods, who will review and decide.

crocusfocus · 09/02/2023 20:50

PP also mentioned she felt things were spooky with the fog. I genuinely believe people can get a sixth sense around this kind of thing. It makes my blood run cold.

I also am inclined to believe it is highly unlikely a strong, capable woman who would have been so vigilant by nature (2 young children) would stumble into a river and drown.
She would have been so aware of going to the edge, and even if she did stumble - her hat would have dislodged or something, and even if she did not have any loose accessories she would have tried to climb out.

lifeturnsonadime · 09/02/2023 20:50

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:35

I do think some people favour the killer abduction theory because it's more exciting, something to solve, etc.

Me too.

Ruling out suicide or deciding to stage her own disappearance on the basis of 'I wouldn't do it' or 'it's impossible' is frankly bizarre.

Hellybelly84 · 09/02/2023 20:50

Fizzadora · 09/02/2023 20:40

What a bunch of harpies you all are. Speculating and gossiping for 6 threads fgs.
This is a real family here.
Go away. Leave it alone. Hold your loved ones close and give thanks it's not you and your family.

Ive had the same conversation on here as in my office and I imagine thousands of workplaces across the UK. I cant see one disrespectful comment (wild accustions etc) and I hope they are deleted if they are. Its no different to chatting with your colleagues/friends about the case - Mums concerned that another Mum has all but vanished after the school run without a shred of evidence where she is. I’d like to believe the theories shes been abducted or needs some space as theres a chance shes still alive. I also think the family would hate it not being discussed or making the news anymore.

RubyPip · 09/02/2023 20:50

Plitvice · 09/02/2023 20:43

The problem is that we live in an age where there is a potential answer (or a hundred versions) available immediately from your armchair. Therefore, it seems frustrating when there is no answer or no clues.
Two weeks is very long or very little time at all depending entirely upon your perspective. My aunt was missing for several months (and potentially dead for all we knew at the time).
While there is no news, there is still hope.

I hope your Aunt was okay?

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:51

How can speculation, which may hinder things / be harmful be reduced?
In particular, how can idiots like a person who goes to take a selfie at the site (wtf?) be prosecuted later to deter such fools from wasting time / contaminating scenes at the next site (as sadly there will be one). Is there a law that can be applied (later when there is time & energy for such matters)?

People certainly shouldn't monetise it but then the clickers who follow these people are just as bad.

Oaktree55 · 09/02/2023 20:52

Activelyannoyed · 09/02/2023 20:48

It’s not just one man, multiple experts have now said she can’t be in the water. It’s all over the media. At least Google.

Just googled can’t find any professional criticism apart from book guy?

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:54

@Activelyannoyed can you report things for being disrespectful? I didn't know that.

Activelyannoyed · 09/02/2023 20:54

Oaktree55 · 09/02/2023 20:52

Just googled can’t find any professional criticism apart from book guy?

I’m not doing it for you. It’s been discussed on our multiple threads, it’s all over media. If you can’t find it, then this issue is yours and your ability to use the internet. . I’m sorry. But no, I’m not here to support with this.

ilovesushi · 09/02/2023 20:55

I am following these threads and I don't find them distasteful. I see a lot of women here who are genuinely worried about another mum who looks like a friend, sister, colleague, someone you say hi to at the school gates, and they are shocked and appalled at this lovely woman disappearing into thin air in broad daylight in what looks like a safe and scenic place to walk your dog.

I don't have trust in the police investigation. I might be wrong and I hope I am but when a life is at stake we should question and we should talk about it and they should be accountable. For sure, right now they need to focus on the investigation not their PR but I don't think we should blindly place our trust in the police force when our gut is saying they are wrong.

As some posters stated early in this thread, I am worried that the police will claim she is washed into the sea and will use that as an excuse to wind down the search.

RubyPip · 09/02/2023 20:55

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:47

That's hardly the point is it? SM is a fact of life and here to stay and as long as we don't live in a censored police state people will discuss cases like this, regardless of all the virtue signalling posts that are interspersed in threads like this.

Thing is I think there is a way to do it a respectful manner or not.

I do agree that there's an important distinction between respectful discussion and offensive batshittery; we just have to keep reporting the latter.

I think OP has done very well in making sure posters are including links to credible sources, calling out deflamatory speculation and answering repeated questions; now and then there's just an influx of weirdos....

OnSecondThoughts · 09/02/2023 20:56

The police spokesperson has said "Mr Faulding isn’t included within all the investigation detail any more than [...] members of the public are". I read a newspaper report today (sorry, I forget which paper) which quotes Mr Faulding as saying that he normally works alongside the police and would usually expect to be given the full details. I found that interesting.

Also, I've been looking at NB's 'selfies' taken on previous walks along the riverside. It's not exactly that anything leaps out at me as being 'odd' or whatever, but just...? I don't know, I mean I know all 'selfies' are staged to an extent, and you get some 'selfies' the purpose of which seems to be "hey everyone, look at my fantastic life" - NB's selfies aren't like that, however, and I'm not even sure how to put this... in fact, maybe it's nothing, and my mind is just trying to read something into them that isn't there. But...there are photos of me when I've been sad/happy/excited/ even just bored or puzzled or whatever, and the camera just naturally captures a split second of that and you can see it. That's not how NB's selfies look. I'm still trying to put my finger on what it is about them, or whether it's just because your mind is trying to read something that isn't there.

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:56

Yes the OP has reported things. I can't follow it much as too busy.

Plitvice · 09/02/2023 20:56

RubyPip · 09/02/2023 20:50

I hope your Aunt was okay?

Well, she was found with a new partner from her home town six months later so a positive outcome in a way. She escaped a bad marriage which had made her deeply unhappy and she said that she would have killed herself if she had stayed.
She established a good relationship with her son and daughter once they had grown up and they are both happy and well-adjusted adults despite not having seen their mum again from the night she tucked them up into bed age 4/6 through to adulthood.

SueG60 · 09/02/2023 20:59

lifeturnsonadime · 09/02/2023 20:50

Me too.

Ruling out suicide or deciding to stage her own disappearance on the basis of 'I wouldn't do it' or 'it's impossible' is frankly bizarre.

I explained in quite a lot of detail why thats unlikely towards the back end of the last thread, its a waste of time debating it because you just don't get it. You just post whataboutery in response.

Its not impossible to lie low at a mates house for months, or to live on the streets when nobody is looking for you. It is impossible to build a new life in this country when you've been the focus of such intense media scrutiny, and its impossible to live at someones house forever never going out. It defies any logic why someone would do that, nothing to do with what I would or wouldn't do.

You need to explain why you think she would want to disappear from her family, her well paid job and what her long term plan would be for starting a new life given the whole country now knows who she is. Otherwise there's no logic to what you're saying.

Bluekerfuffle · 09/02/2023 20:59

MissingMoominMamma · 09/02/2023 20:38

Apparently, her phone was found on the ground by a passing man and it was him who put it on the bench.

Do you have a source for this, I’ve only seen repeated reports of a woman finding it (either on the bench or ground).

puppacup · 09/02/2023 20:59

I don't think we should blindly place our trust in the police force when our gut is saying they are wrong.

I don't think anyone should ever blindly trust the police but my gut doesn't know what happened tbh.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 09/02/2023 20:59

Activelyannoyed · 09/02/2023 20:54

I’m not doing it for you. It’s been discussed on our multiple threads, it’s all over media. If you can’t find it, then this issue is yours and your ability to use the internet. . I’m sorry. But no, I’m not here to support with this.

Ah yes, the educate yourself response. There isn't any actual experts other than 'book guy' people saying that it isn't possible on SM are not experts.

dawngreen · 09/02/2023 20:59

Watching the divers I could see its shallow near the edge near the bench, and falling there she would stand up and get back out. She would have to go out to the middle to reach the deep parts. And if she knew the area well she would avoid that. I got the feeling she sat to take the call, and put the dogs gear back on, but was disturbed enough to get up, and go after her dog.

I saw in one video that cows were in one of the fields opposite the river to the left. Maybe the dog went in to that field, and she went in to get her dog. But what if she got kicked in there, and fell? A number of ppl have done that in the areas near me.

lifeturnsonadime · 09/02/2023 21:00

She established a good relationship with her son and daughter once they had grown up and they are both happy and well-adjusted adults despite not having seen their mum again from the night she tucked them up into bed age 4/6 through to adulthood.

That's good my friend who was abandoned along with 3 siblings by her mother never was able to establish a relationship once she was able to be found, because in that case she left because she was selfish.

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