Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

Lots washes up at Knott End
Last time I was there, there was a large red deer on the mudflats.

In the case of insurance, First Party and Second Party are the parties to the contract - the Insurer and the Insured. The Third Party is a someone else who's involved in the contract - by having an accident with the insured.

They're only a 'Third' party because there are two other parties.

It doesn't just mean 'other person'

Makes sense about stopping the public searching. It's not safe down there is it.

I feel really sad reading the list of missing people, feel bad reading all the attention on this missing person compared to the long list of others. And feel sad for the families who member has decided to leave one day without them knowing if they are alive.

You have your Dan's mixed up.
It's not Dan Wooten (who is as you say, odious) it's Dan Walker who is lovely.

I utterly disagree and this is something I’m an expert in

why @melonraspberry

In the case of insurance, First Party and Second Party are the parties to the contract - the Insurer and the Insured. The Third Party is a someone else who's involved in the contract - by having an accident with the insured
They're only a 'Third' party because there are two other parties
It doesn't just mean 'other person'

I think it does, idiomatically.

And that's clearly the sense in which the police mean it

I agree with this. But it's Dan Walker not Dan Wootton. I'm surprised he's getting involved with this. I thought better of him.

What @MyGiGiBoo said in other words!

I think it's just used as cop-speak though. Correct English usage doesn't seem high on the agenda usually.

It would entirely depend on the wellies. IME, wellies often need to be at least a size up and loose fit before they come off easily. Unfortunately if waterproof boots are breached over the top and fill with water but don't come off, they contribute to the weighting effect of wet clothing. There's a lot of guidance for water sports' participants NOT to wear boots if there's any risk of entering the water. They are a significant safety hazard.

I think it is a bad choice of phrase and is often used when a family member commits a crime against another. It is totally the wrong choice of words and just fuels speculation that this is “in the family”

Yeah, cop-speak.

I must admit I've heard it used like that loads of times, always understood it and never queried it.

As I stated before, media raises awareness which raises public pressure which is essentially what makes things happen - usually related to politics but in this case to make the police keep searching with maximum resources . If the family want a change of direction in the investigation, this is how they can make it happen . I work in comms and I’ve seen people change their lives by doing media work.

media work isn’t without risk due to the bellends out there esp on twitter and FB but that happens and just has to be ignored

Wouldn’t normally trot out the expert line but given we’ve got people coming off shift and onto this thread ….

To all those saying there could have been a suicide note that we don't know about. If the police know that she has died by suicidal why would they say they're carrying out up to 500 different lines of enquiry? It would be an open and closed case. Police do not conduct massive investigations if they know for a fact someone has taken their own life.

Yes, typically used in murder/suicide cases as shorthand for 'everyone involved is dead'.

Is there any proof of what they're doing beyond their work that's public facing?

It's hard to gather evidence when you don't seal off the area and let randoms trample all over it

It depends how far out you walked, it’s not bad close to the prom but you don’t want to stand still too long or you do start to sink. The area by the ferry jetty is very muddy and you don’t want to go anywhere near that! We were at the top end as we’d been walking in the woods from Preesall and that’s where the horses were when we were there, one lot coming off the beach who rode down the road and one lot quite far out on the beach, neither were in the prom but they might have been earlier as it was quite late in the afternoon.

In relation to what you said about things being washed up, there was a full sheep washed up on the rocks which we had to stop the dog rolling in 🤢.

Exactly

Her husband will be hoping that it jogs some ones memory of that day. Even bad publicity is better than none. And the police will be watching his reactions too.

Oh God 🤢🤮

No and there won’t be, it’s a live investigation!

Not if he’s got an alibi and I suspect he has.

Exactly.